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[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 111 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My experience as an atheist has been me holding a shield with them having a sword. I don't really have any interest in talking about God with anyone.

[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Right? I've gotten "Aren't you worried about going to Hell?"

Just.... no.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 11 points 1 week ago

Obviously not

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[–] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (12 children)

My experience has been the exact opposite!

I suspect it's a cultural thing, though. I'm British, but I know America has a very aggressive evangelical base. There are mega-churches and politicians and sports people are always talking about God and Jesus and we just don't have that over here.

On the other hand, a few atheists I know have tried to "convert" me before.

I'm guessing it's a certainty thing. From what I've seen of the American churches, some of them are absolutely borderline cults. So of course the folk are certain that they're right.

And there's certainly enough ammunition in religion as a whole for anyone who hates religion to think that they're right.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Someone brought up religion, or god. Is it the athiests?

I will absolutely push back if something brings up religion.

It would be silly if a Christian tried to convert you, an already converted Christian. Maybe there's some confirmation bias at work?

[–] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (6 children)

It always starts from the assumption that I'm an atheist too. They're all friends, by the way, so don't picture some kind of weird high-pressure pitches on the street.

Also I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to conflate being atheist and being anti-religious - my friend in this story however is in the "religion is ultimately the cause of every war in history" camp.

Anyway, very basically, I'd done something nice. Another work friend was talking about it, and my anti-religion friend responded with "see, he's an objectively nice person, no religion needed or anything". And it was at this point I revealed my secret identity, and the discussion began.

Just for balance, over my 44 years, I've also had a Scientology pitch, a Jehovah's Witnesses pitch (old-school knocking on the door style), and an uncomfortably high-pressure pitch from what I'm sure was one of those churches set up to scam immigrants.

But outside of those, the main people who have tried to change me have been friends with strong anti-religious views.

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What did the atheists try to "convert" you to?

[–] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Hmm. I'm going to go ahead and assume this is a bad-faith comment. Despite that, I'll try to help.

I'm guessing from the phrasing that you're not aware, but if you're trying to change someone's belief system, it's called conversion.

I appreciate that you were probably trying to do the "atheism isn't a belief, it's a lack of a belief" thing, but unfortunately that's how the language works in this case.

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[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 68 points 1 week ago (4 children)

A Christian girl once told me that she couldn't date me because I was a non believer. I could tell it hurt her to say it, but it seemed like genuine conviction.

It's a shame, because she was lovely.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 60 points 1 week ago

Sad when people let superstitions prevent them from living the life they want.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago

Bullet dodged.

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[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I had the misfortune of needing to attend a "Christian" university for a short while due to visa reasons in the US, the vomit inducing cult speak they do at every opprtunity at a institute that's about education and science was appalling, imagine the kids who have to grow up in such an environment, no wonder the country is so fucked up right now

[–] dukeofdummies@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I once had a study partner who was raised like that. We were scheduling our first after school study session and trying to figure out time. I shoot out sunday and he goes "nah I have church, wait don't you have church?" "nah, I'm an atheist"

dude vanished. Three days later I notice him trying to like... hide in a hoodie towards the opposite side of the class. I walk over, worried I offended him or something. He basically tells me that he can't interact with satanists and I just go "look, if you don't wanna interact with me, don't. You don't have to hide in a corner or try to avoid me. If you wanna draw the line at just existing in the same room, ok then."

To his credit, he did try to have a study session with me after that, but I had to end it early. The dude was so on edge, it was like he was convinced I was gonna stab him at any moment.

Years later he contacted me to apologize out of the blue on facebook. Went completely off grid traveling the world. My guess trying to compensate for just how little he knew of it.

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[–] theUwUhugger@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Religious leaders there openly brag about having gold shoes and private jets…

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Just venting...

Last year my partners mother stayed at our house for a long time (months). I felt constantly judged when I was around her, so I started to become reclusive. She started judging that too. I ended up falling into depression because I felt trapped in my own home.

The day before she left, she told me she hopes I find Jesus.

It took all my willpower not to snap.

[–] yyyesss@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Maintain eye contact and reply "Same to you."

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"What do you mean? He watches me from the corner every time I'm masturbating."

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[–] emmanuelw@jlai.lu 25 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I'm a Christian pastor happily married to an atheist, AMA.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Do you believe your wife will go to hell?

Is she agnostic or does she believe there is no god?

[–] emmanuelw@jlai.lu 35 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Do you believe your wife will go to hell?

No. I don't believe in all that “you have to confess Jesus as your personal lord and saviour to avoid hell” crap. It's in fact something not very widespread outside evangelicalism. I believe the Cross is working mysteriously, far outside the frontier of the visible Church. A God who condemns people that doesn't recognize him is not a loving God, it's a pervert. I believe that “to confess Jesus as my personal lord and saviour” is a way to live a better life here and now, and I don't expect an eternal reward for that.

Is she agnostic or does she believe there is no god?

I'd say she's agnostic atheist. She doesn't know if God exist, but believes he does not, and in fact doesn't care.

[–] MacAnus@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

You sound like a very good person.
I think you get what I believe religion is supposed to be about.
And that's nice to see :) keep it up!

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[–] notaviking@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

How did the marriage ceremony go, who officiated the marriage, was it a religious leader or another type of official. I am really curious because I want my Christian GF to have the wedding of her dreams and I am not sure how to approach the topic. I have no issues but I am scared a pastor or similar might have because I am atheist

[–] emmanuelw@jlai.lu 15 points 1 week ago

I live in France, where it's illegal to have a religious marriage without having a civil one first. As a pastor, I have to ask a proof that the people I religiously marries are already married civilly. I agree theologically with that, as protestants don't marry people, they bless an already existing marriage.

So we had both. To be honest, in France, civil marriages are quite dull: it takes 5 minutes, the mayor or their deputy reads the law, asks for consent, makes the people sign, and it's the next couple's turn. It's very administrative. There's a little decorum, but just a little.

So, even for people without strong belief, the ritual makes the marriage something special. It was the case for my spouse, at least. She's atheist, but she respects my faith, as I respect her atheism; she knew it was important for me, so that made it important for her.

I would warn you though: if your girlfriend is Catholic, you'll have yo promise to raise your children in the Catholic faith. If your girlfriend is evangelical, they may ask you to testify of your faith. I'd say to discuss this with her first very openly, and test the waters with her priest/pastor. 90% are cool people, with whom you'll be able to be open, and they won't refuse you as long as they don't sense that you opposes the whole thing. 10% are assholes; I'd advice you to look for an other one; if it's the one your girlfriend wants, lie to them (as long as your girlfriend agrees with that). You don't marry for the officiant, you owe them nothing.

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[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I grew up Christian in a place where most people were atheist, went to a Christian school, where about half the students were Christian and the other was atheist, then moved to different places all over. My experience through all of that was always: Regular people in either group mostly don't give a shit and just want to live their own lives. The "Christians" you see on TV are not normal people.

[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I grew up agnostic/atheist in the Bible Belt. There was a lot of casual discrimination, ostracism, and judgement if you weren't Christian. Even among different churches. I'd have loved for there have been more Christians like you, but unfortunately the TV/Fox News Christians are all over the place down there.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Yea. Those types don't just exist on TV, they are everyday people in our communities for some of us. To just say they aren't "normal" erases the lived experiences of those who live where these mentalities are still very much the norm for that locality.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Christians are indoctrinated from childhood to obey any authority that speaks the way their pastor does, and to ignore the evidence of their eyes and ears to believe what they are told.

So it's always awkward interacting with Christians, i can correct some of their shitty behavior by explaining how it would hurt them, but the conversation that their core beleifs are a control mechanism abused by conmen is impossible to broach.

It makes me sad because religion is so important to so many people, but it wouldn't be if they weren't indoctrinated against their will as children.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Personally, I'm an atheist (anti-theist to be more precise), but I'll say that in my experience catholic christians tend to be less culty than protestant christians. Probably has something to do with the part that catholics believe that they actually have to be good vs protestants believing that simply believing is all you need.

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[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 12 points 1 week ago

I'm as atheist as they come (I'm actually anti-theist in a lot of ways but I'm not militant about it) and I live in a very Red, very "Christian" area of the country, but with a couple of exceptions I haven't had too many problems with "Christians" in face to face encounters, though they are often very judgemental people and I don't particularly like associating with them. Still I haven't had to pull out my Halberd once.

The only real way "Christians" negatively impact my life is when they vote in laws that requires non-"Christians" to follow their interpretation of their religion and/or try to impose their religious views on me such as making the display of "The Ten Commandments" (one of them anyway) a requirement in our public schools, which they do in my state with frequency.

Actual Christians are much more rare and I get along with them a lot better. These people actually follow with Jesus teachings (within reason) and don't try to force their beliefs onto others. My mom was one such person in her later years and she was the best person I ever met in my life (before and after being more religious).

It takes all kinds. What's much more important to me than what you believe is how you behave.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 12 points 1 week ago

That’s false, the creator of this comic is just trying to spread hate

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