I call BS. Is FDA compromised like other US agencies? Check who bought stock before this support.
this post was submitted on 18 Jul 2025
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As a former smoker and a lover of drugs, nicotine is one of the dumbest drugs that you could consume.
Nicotine is awesome for the first few months and then your body adapts and you literally get nothing out of it. Even if you take a break your receptors never reset so it's really one of those single use drugs.
How is it awesome?
I mean I enjoyed the hell out of it when I smoked. Love a cigarette and black coffee.
Yes but that’s not the nicotine. That’s the smoke and the coffee and the relaxing and all that stuff. Which… yes is how I got started haha. But nicotine itself… nothing good, and lots of bad.
Yeah the nicotine makes you just feel like you are dying.
I eventually went to those mints which are basically nicotine candy. I was eating them like… well, candy. When I quit those, my resting heartbeat went from 80 to ~55.
But of all the drugs I’ve ever done, nicotine is the only one where I still want it.
But of all the drugs I’ve ever done, nicotine is the only one where I still want it.
Yeah, you smell that secondhand smoke and no matter how many years it's been, it's got that magnetic appeal, like the smell of a nicely seared steak.
Only if it’s my brand though. I hate the smell of cigarettes, but I can smell a camel light a mile away.
But of all the drugs I’ve ever done, nicotine is the only one where I still want it.
Same. I still want a cigarette and its been way more than 10 years.
https://www.vumc.org/ccm/whynicotine
What the hell are you on about? Nicotine is not bad for you.
Nicotine is well known to have serious systemic side effects in addition to being highly addictive. It adversely affects the heart, reproductive system, lung, kidney etc. Many studies have consistently demonstrated its carcinogenic potential.
https://www.rsph.org.uk/about-us/news/nicotine--no-more-harmful-to-health-than-caffeine-.html
Nicotine isn't the issue and no it is not carcinogenic. The burning of tobacco is.
Paid for by Big Nicotine ya dummy. There is overwhelming evidence to the contrary. But if you look hard enough, you can always find text on the Internet that aligns with the viewpoint that you want to have, regardless of its accuracy
That's Vanderbilt University...the fuck? There are tons of other studies that show it's being researched for a net gain.
https://www.rsph.org.uk/about-us/news/nicotine--no-more-harmful-to-health-than-caffeine-.html
What about that one?
Caffeine isn’t good for you either, if we want to be pedantic. You can “the fuck,” all you want but showing how a bad thing is like another bad thing doesn’t make it a good thing.
Did...did you even read any of the links I posted? Apparently not...things aren't bad just because you say they are... uranium can blow us all up or provide energy for us. The sun... literally is killing us when we go outside, but it grows our food and provides us a habitable temperature to survive in. Why is your brain so black and white...
It would be wise to not purposefully sit out in the sun. If you’re going to do it, don’t try to make it sound perfectly fine. I won’t stop you from doing it. Just don’t lie to yourself and everyone around you by saying “but I wear sunscreen, so I can bake out there with no problem.”
Own your bad habits lol.
You absolutely didn't get anything from my comment...it has nothing to do about sitting in the sun.
You said the sun is killing us when we go outside. I reference the sun and its damaging effects. I read your entire comment, but as far as getting anything salvageable from it, I don’t believe so. You are bringing up uranium and radiation from the sun and comparing it to the voluntary inhalation of drugs. You should expect a bit of pushback.
Its a very powerful stimulant and great for focus enhancement.
If you're legitimately interested and not just trolling see this detailed psychonauts wiki page: https://m.psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Nicotine
There are many orher substances that do the exact same thing without the extreme side effects of nicotine.
Juul saved my life. I tell everyone who smokes about how easy quitting smoking was with Juul. I’m not being paid. I really believe it.
And then quitting Juul was pretty easy also because it wasn’t really smoking anymore. Overall, 5 stars.
I definitely think a good progression is cigarettes to vaping to lozenges or mints, to nothing.
You quit tobacco and tar which is great. You’re still addicted to nicotine which is bad.
Your health outcomes would have been worse with tobacco but continued use of nicotine will have negative effects.
This does not mean they are safe or ‘FDS Approved’.
There hasn’t been enough time and data to know the effects of long-term vaping.
There are very few longitudinal studies on vaping and what it can do to the human body (less than 4).
That is definitely not enough to determine all the hard facts.
I’m still hooked on nicotine. These days I mix my own juice, use refillable pods that last me a good month with two rechargeable batteries that I swap between. It’s very cheap when one does it this way. Quitting is obviously the best way to go, and believe me I’ve tried, but I keep coming back.
I’ve given up opiates, coke, and weed. But dropping nicotine is a real bitch.
dude dont even trip at this point, I think we're all gonna need some of those to get by
If you mix your own juice why not slowly decrease the bicotine in the mix until it’s nonexistent? That should ween you off the nicotine and you won’t have to worry about it.
I have lowered the amount of nicotine in the juice I make. But getting down to 0 has been very difficult to do. Actually putting less in is not the hard part. Sticking with it is the hard part. It’s really easy to just make a new bottle at the level I had before that. Idk. It’s hard to explain.
Do you have a trusted friend who could hold onto your nic extract and dispense specific amounts to mix into your juice mixture?
I used to subohm 100 mg/ml salt nic extract and I managed to quit by reducing the nic until I got to 18 mg/ml, then switched to nicotine gum for a couple of months, then to regular gum for a month or two. This exact method isn't going to work for everyone, and there are multiple ways to quit nicotine. I no longer have nicotine cravings, though, and I haven't for years now.
Kinda like when I switched to rolling my own cigs, or later switching to a pipe. In theory, the extra work was supposed to disincentivize use. In practice, I just got really good at rolling cigs/packing a pipe
Juul devices are re-usable but the pods aren't which still create a ton of plastic waste.
Juuls/pod systems/"disposable" ones are, but there are plenty of options that are fully rebuild-able. RTA/RDA on a classic mod for example.
Idk why so many abandoned the classic mods, they are so much cooler, I had one with Bluetooth and LEDs back in the day LMAO.
Ig that "just works" aspect of the pods was as addictive as the nicotine :/
Yeah i used to smoke refills - it's so easy and a bottle would last me for months. You can also mix flavors and cola + any fruit (like cola lichee) was my go to!
Not really sure what's happened for that as well, as myself one who still uses an RTA and a mod. The local vape shop in my area went under... so now basically it's ordering online as the only option. But even so the cost effectiveness is overwhelming.
Honestly I think it's simply the fact that, nice mods etc... last years... my RTA with about 15 bucks worth of cotton and wire, has held me up for over 2 years. $30 of liquid can last me 2 months easily. Meanwhile I'm seeing people buying disposables that last about 3 days for $25.
I assume that's basically what happened though, stores are incentivized to encourage things that bring lots of re-occuring income. I'd have to say it's the same as the reason why almost everyone uses inkjet printers instead of lasers.
Half the reason I started vaping was because I couldn't care less about killing myself, but spending $7 a day on a pack of cigs, was adding up fast.
Aren't these full of lead?
There are so many brands of e-liquid and they aren't required to publish ingredient lists, so the answer is probably "some of them, yeah".
There was a recent report that they’re worse than actual cigarettes, but okay.
Big doubt on that statement bruh
Thats not Juul but disposable Chinese illegal vapes. It says right in the title.
Oh, I'm sure Juul are much healthier. 🙄
Why not? I think we can nail healthy evaporator tech that doesnt leaked heavy metals right? Why couldn't Juul achieve this?