this post was submitted on 14 Jul 2025
777 points (97.6% liked)

Technology

72831 readers
2982 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related news or articles.
  3. Be excellent to each other!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
  10. Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

TLDR: Drug dealers in Catalonia have started to adopt GrapheneOS en masse leading to Catalan police suspecting anyone with a Google Pixel is a drug dealer

(page 2) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[โ€“] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 307 points 1 day ago (41 children)

Basically, if you don't have a phone the cops can easily backdoor, you must be a criminal.

"What do you have to hide?" taken to it's logical conclusion.

load more comments (41 replies)
[โ€“] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 59 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Feds"

checks Wikipedia page for Spain

Government: "Unitary parliamentary constitutional monarchy"

๐Ÿง

(Sorry for nitpicking lol ๐Ÿ˜…)


But serious tho:

I kinda hate these weird associations. Its like arresting people who wear glasses because intellectual rebels wear glasses? (Pol Pot?)

Like can't someone just use a phone in peace? Most Pixel users don't even use Graphene OS.

Hey you know what, drug dealers drink water. Lets arrest people who drink water!

[โ€“] MangoCats@feddit.it 12 points 1 day ago

If she floats, she's a witch and we'll burn her at the stake.

[โ€“] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 189 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is the best recommendation for a phone I've seen yet.

Thanks catalonian police

[โ€“] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Be wary since as of Android 16, Google no longer provides device source for Pixel phones.

[โ€“] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

I'll keep in mind thanks

[โ€“] Amberskin@europe.pub 5 points 1 day ago

Feds???? WTF!

[โ€“] Bluewing@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Glances at my new Pixel, Welp, I guess I ain't ever goin' to Catalonia. Not that I was planning to go there anyway.

***Tinfoil conspiracy: Maybe this a scare tactic to keep the British out of Spain.

[โ€“] descartador@lemmy.eco.br 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[โ€“] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[โ€“] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 3 points 23 hours ago

First install GrapheneOS, then become a dealer. You're welcome.

load more comments (2 replies)
[โ€“] Yupa@ani.social 99 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sounds like a good recommendation.

load more comments (1 replies)
[โ€“] besselj@lemmy.ca 85 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're mad they can't use cellbrite to snoop on properly configured GOS phones and that they actually have to do real police work to catch drug dealers

[โ€“] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 44 points 1 day ago (21 children)

Yes. They (cellebrite) don't mention GrapheneOS support very loudly because it's poor. They can't decrypt one that's BFU (Before First Unlock), not even by brute force if it's a 6 digit passcode apparently. Don't know if they can get data from an AFU GOS pixel. A year ago when their internal docs leaked, they also had no support for latest iOS at the time, but had brute force support for older versions as long as phone itself wasn't too new and had AFU access without brute force for even older versions.

Moral of the story: if there's a chance police might take your phone to investigate for a crime you hopefully didn't even commit, shut down your phone completely - the 5x power button trick on iOS disables biometric unlock, but the device itself stays decrypted and thus more vulnerable. Also keep your OS up to date.

If you've got a phone that's neither iOS nor GrapheneOS, it's probably pretty much Swiss cheese anyway. IOS isn't as good as GrapheneOS either, but it offers some protection against Cellebrite if up to date and BFU. But if they keep your phone for long enough (months, years), they'll get it unlocked because you can't install updates that would patch any newly discovered vulnerabilities and one day they'll find a BFU unlock for it, probably.

[โ€“] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Grapheneos also has options to just disable data over the USB port when its locked. Or disable it outright.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (20 replies)
[โ€“] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Merci per la idea de negoci. (/s)

[โ€“] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I was very confused why I could read this without knowing what language it was lol. Catalan is interesting

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: โ€น prev next โ€บ