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Israel’s war in Gaza is chipping away at so much of what we – in the United States but also internationally – had agreed upon as acceptable, from the rules governing our freedom of speech to the very laws of armed conflict. It seems no exaggeration to say that the foundation of the international order of the last 77 years is threatened by this change in the obligations governing our legal and political responsibilities to each other.

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[–] known_unknown@lemmy.world 259 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

The Jewish people of the world deserve apology from the government of isreal for using their suffering as a political tool in service of genocide.

In conflating politics and imperialism with lineage and race, the political movement of Zionism sows incalculable hatred into the world in the name of Judaism, so that they can reap it later, when Jewish people suffer as meat shields, as justification for expansionism, and forever-war. Down with this theocratic shell game.

[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 114 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

As someone who is a Jewish refugee in the US, there are more than enough Jewish folks in Israel and around the US who are completely fine with what the government of Israel is doing. They should not be let off the hook. I say this fully realizing that the pro Palestinian sentiment has a large Jewish constituency in the US. So it’s not to paint with a broad brush. But people living in Israel are almost 3/4 in support of what is happening and the only protests in that country were from people who wanted to rescue the hostages but were fully on board with the horrors the country is committing in the name of Jews around the world. The conflation of a religion with an ethnicity will end up making us less safe.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's not because they're Jewish, though, it's because they've let their ego and pride overcome their empathy for their fellow human beings.

There's plenty of non-Jewish people who are also perfectly happy to profit off the suffering of Palestinians.

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[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Those were absolutely not the only protests in Israel, those were the only protests in Israel that got coverage and support from the government. The protests against what was happening were violently suppressed and silenced as has been happening for quite some time. Yes the large anti netanyahu protests made little mention of Palestinians rather than ceasefire deals to bring the hostages home but that is how you bring people together politically.

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

My pro-palestinian praxis is making sure my Jewish neighbours have no reason to even think about aliyah. Jewish safety? It's here. Reverse doikayt.

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[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 118 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Zionism is a destructive toxic ideology of fascistic bloodlust and racial supremacy. It is the true descendent of Nazi ideology.

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 week ago (33 children)

Given that the Zionist movement was founded decades before the Nazi movement, I would say Nazis are the descendants.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

Well, 19th century zionism was a different thing. Edit: or rather, a more diverse collection if things. Optionally but not necessarily evil. Sometimes it was as benign as 'lets all go somewhere and join a community together ajd bring the ways that we're cool to that community and even if they dont totally like us, they can't hate us more than these assholes'.

So it is fair to say that the idea of zionism that 'won', the genocidal theocratic ethnostate, is at least to some extent based on both the nazis, and some of the same esoteric bs the nazis were into.

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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 54 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

More accurately, they’re both separate descendants of ethnonationalism which was a popular ideology at that time. And still today, evidently, though it seemed to be in decline for a bit during the post-war period.

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

The split is between governments and the general public. I don't know too many individuals who are ok with what is going on. And if they are, they are being awfully quiet about it.

[–] madlian@lemmy.cafe 17 points 1 week ago

The people who are okay with it are the ones who hate the Muslims. Which is a shockingly large number of people and governments.

[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You should go and read some daily mail comments on articles about the war (genocide). They're a bunch of frothing murderous horrors.

[–] ogmios@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Internet comments != real people

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago

As someone who has to deal with real people at demonstrations regularly, these horrible genocidal sentiments are not just limited to internet trolls unfortunately.

Also as much as they are detached from the general population, all the politicians and Israel lobbyists and MIC lobbyists still are real people too.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 6 points 1 week ago

Those articles always get a bunch of trolls though.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 5 points 1 week ago

But those people still elect those parties thst support israel. Why those parties would listen to people?

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

the Mayans missed it by like ... 15 years

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

Idk. Seems like this was occurring in 2012 too.

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-188596/

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[–] razen@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

When are we going to talk about African wars?

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

When the US starts being the primary funder of them.

[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

There isn’t any difference between American arms and israeli arms

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You're beyond saving. You cannot even recognize why it matters if you're participating in a genocide or not. A genocide is already happening, why not make a buck off of it? In a past life, you worked at IBM. There you sold computers to the Nazis to help them tabulate the Holocaust.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Is it? I don't even hear anything out of the Arab states. It should but I don't see much.

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[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In repression of counter speech against genocide in almost all western countries to some degree their hand has been shown once again to be prioritizing order over law's rotting corpse.

[–] Onyxonblack@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not order. It's control and oppression, a tale as old as mankind.

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