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[–] EccTM@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dead Products (Death Date)

  • Mentioned in article:
    • Google Podcasts (Later in 2024)
    • YouTube Premium Lite (Oct 2023)
    • Gmail's "Basic HTML" view (Jan 2024)
  • Not mentioned in article:
    • Google Optimize (30 Sept 2023)
    • Google Domains (30 Sept 2023)
[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Also dead now:

  • Google Jamboard (Later in 2024)
    • A 5k business/edu whiteboard with a 600$/yr fee
[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My company has like 50 of these. Theyre losing support?

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup, I think the announcement was for "late 2024" so prob around this time next year. They'll be paperweights, as far as I can tell, there's no local functionality and the cloud software is getting shutdown

If you're in the edu sector Google said something about working with them to reimburse the cost, but regular businesses can kick rocks apparently

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I swear, these "evil" companies vanquish themselves. How does Google seriously expect anyone to invest any non-zero amount of time + capital into learning and integrating their fly-by-night dilletantic ventures...

Like, real talk G, stop threatening and making good on giving me a good time. Hopefully they will take a page from Brav's book although I will never trust or use them. Some things just need to die imao

[–] loathsomeleukocyte@mas.to -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@cheese_greater @cm0002 They don't want to waste time on things which are not popular. There's nothing wrong with this strategy.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I mean, I get the logic but re:valid business strategy, that is increasinly clearly not the case. At least as long as alienating and giving people a hard nudge to De-Google is indicative of failure, maybe I'm out of line here. All I know is I'm not hearing a certain generecized verb these days so much as the antithetical of said verb. Although I get the argument to the contrary, something something echo chamber...

Their unreliabillity is legendary and at meme-level. They are like a hotel that closes up shop and moves the set overnight while you're sleeping so you wake up naked in the middle of the street. I'm surprised they even have real office buildings/campuses and not just movie sets on stilts.

[–] Moonrise2473@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

But meanwhile lose all credibility. If you don't want to commit to a specific piece of hardware, don't sell it. A $5000 whiteboard with a $600 yearly subscription AND that requires paid Google workspace subscriptions for each user (100 employees=$12000 each year) will NEVER be ultra popular. They already knew from the beginning that they wouldn't be possibly move millions of units of this and they would just cash in from the subscriptions.

All files generated on this devices are proprietary and saved on their servers. As of now, it's not possible to get them and open on a computer. When they pull the plug, they're all gone.

For example, when Twitter died and they sold all the forniture at the auction, they had more than an hundred devices like this. https://bid.hgpauction.com/past-auctions/herita10216?term=Jamboard

Maybe the new management kept some of the boards, but here they spent half million in hardware + 60k yearly for the software licenses + another hundreds of thousands for the required Google workspace accounts for the users. And for what? For e-waste that ends with no drop-in replacement. Now corps need to quickly find an alternative and they need to pay extra to convert the generated files to the new platform.

Behaving like this will definitely hurt future sales, as Google will be labeled as the supplier that suddenly disappears without a drop-in replacement.

There are a lot of other companies that discontinue and render the purchased hardware a brick within a short timeframe, for example Cisco, but at least they have an upgrade path and not "we exit the market, good luck".

[–] Winged_Hussar@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's funny is that in the last year Google has de-googlefied my life more than I have.

Android, Gmail, Google Podcasts, and Domains were the remaining services I use of theirs.

Now I guess it's just Android and Gmail.

Bummed about Google Domains / Site analytics, I really enjoyed how straightforward it was.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's how I have to look at it, same with Apple and their nonsense with iCloud being fully open to themselves and "partners". I said cut the bullshit and maybe I'll come back and they sort of did and now we can all profit from that (although I still have many valid and serious criticism reserved, but I have to pick my battles)

[–] Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Learning to rely on Google as little as possible years ago was the best thing that ever happened to me. I learned this lesson/ came to this conclusion after they got rid of Google reader and even home page/ start page. Google reader was the best (still to this day) rss reader ever made. I still haven't found anything that matches how I had mine set up and its functionality/ usefulness.

[–] DrElementary@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I got that email about google podcasts being shut down and went and found a FOSS alternative: AntennaPod. Been using it for a few days and does everything I need, free, no ads, no extra crap, and now I don't have to start using stupid YT music.

[–] leo@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 5 points 1 year ago

AntennaPod is the best out there on Android imo.

[–] Ringo13@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are there any benefits to using AntennaPod over Spotify?

[–] glasgitarrewelt@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As OC said, free, opensource, no ads. You don't need a Spotify-Account for that.

If you want to get rid of Spotify even more: Try the app ViMusic. Every Song for free, no ads, etc...

[–] Ringo13@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

Very interesting! ViMusic seems cool

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's this about basic email?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That's the HTML-only Gmail view. Now you can only use the JavaScript enabled version on web.

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I'm guessing that was a "better to track and monetize you" decision, on their part. Glad I moved to Proton. If you don't pay for it, you're not a customer. I got tired of being Google's product.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago
[–] AndrasKrigare@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago
[–] autotldr@lemmings.world -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Google is killing off so many products lately we need to do a roundup or we won't get anything else done today.

YouTube has been slowly consuming all of Google's media properties, and podcasts completes the trinity along with videos (both amateur and scripted Hollywood content) and music.

This was announced on the official YouTube blog, if there was any question about the responsible party.

In 2024, Google Podcasts will die at 8 years old, if you want to count from the weird Google Search beginnings, but only has had the bare minimum feature set of a podcast service for four years.

If you've never heard of this, that's because it got a very small rollout to only Belgium, Denmark, Finland, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, and Sweden.

You can throw this shutdown into the pile of "Google price increases" this year.


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[–] EccTM@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you’ve never heard of this, that’s because it got a very small rollout to only Belgium, Denmark, Finland, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, and Sweden.

This is in relation to YouTube Premium Lite, and not, as this shortened article implies, Google Podcasts.

[–] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for the clarification. Am I the only one that thinks autotldr is almost harmfully bad?

[–] ooi_vebnq@r.nf 1 points 1 year ago

I like it for a quick overview. You just need to be aware that you have to check to full article if you find the summary interesting and really wanna save that information in your brain or do something with it.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

YouTube Premium Lite

I can't evn