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[–] Randomdude@lemm.ee 102 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

No a vampire requires permission from some1 inside the house it could be any1 in the house not just the owner. A warrent give legal permission to enter but its from outside the house thus making it useless for a vampire to enter with alone.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 59 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)
[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 53 points 2 weeks ago

Can confirm; am vampire

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 19 points 2 weeks ago

Can also confirm, killed vampire last week. Tree.

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So you need a non-vampire judge to enter the house and produce the warrant from inside, got it!

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If I’m outside the house and pulling weeds and a vampire walks up and I told them to come on in and motion them in the house first can they go in?

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why would they need to, are you anemic and lacking in blood? 🧛‍♂️

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Vampires can steal your valuables too! You don't know!

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[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 63 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] reev@sh.itjust.works 55 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Y'all this one is simple.

Legally, yes.

Physically (for supernatural reasons), no.

[–] SoloCritical@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

This is the answer I choose to accept.

“Can I enter your home to arrest you?”

“I don’t know officer squints eyes ..can you?”

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

"I am not resisting arrest. I am merely standing inside my home to be arrested. Why would I step outside to be arrested?

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 47 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Kicks down the door with his non-vampire partner who enters first .... non-vampire steps inside the building and tells his vampire friend to come in

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I see you too have played in a World of Darkness game. 😜

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We are all playing in a World of Darkness game on this glorious day.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 38 points 2 weeks ago

Legally? Yes. Physically? No.

[–] ooterness@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Yes, you agreed to the Terms of Service (aka Social Contract). For people in the USA, that includes the 4th amendment, which explicitly allows law enforcement (living or semi-living) to enter with a warrant. Therefore you have granted permission to enter.

If they don't have a warrant, or if they messed up the paperwork somehow, then they burst into flame.

[–] async_amuro@lemmy.zip 29 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Permission isn’t an invitation. They need to be invited in, not have permission to enter.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Can a vampire not break and enter? Would an invitation work if they were out of town and needed the vampire to cat sit for a weekend? Does you being in the house have an effect on the invitation or it deed based? How are renters handled? So many questions!

If you’re like me, you’re frustrated with vampire law. Here at Vampire Law, we help to keep your invitations clear and any misunderstandings cleared up.

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[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

But if you're born in the USA, you didn't agree to any ToS it was forced upon you at birth. Never chose to accept/agree to them, but obligated to follow them or face punishment.

A contract signed under duress is invalid.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The power that repels the vampire is supposedly god, which is supposedly stronger than the US Gov (citation needed) meaning no.

However a good question is what exactly is a home and does it need to be sanctified? Can a Vampire enter a graveyard blessed by a cardinal when a groundskeeper lives on the far side?

[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Being as that god is typically considered to be the Christian God, then the dogmatic principle of, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's" should come into play, at least in the western world. Their invitation is from the true owner of the home, the state, which supersedes the current occupants authority as, "all nations are created by God".

However there may be some concept of primacy of house and home that in God's eyes turns out to be more important than the political societal contract we live under that has an exemption for protection from evil supernatural entities, as otherwise a long-lived vampire could simply manipulate the population to get themselves elected as a ruler and cause the citizens to lose one of their fundamental protections from the denizens of the night.

That being said, most law-abiding homeowners would probably permit the entry based on the existence of the warrant by default, so it's likely a moot point.

[–] anubis119@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No. The vampire is bound by a supernatural barrier not even the likes of Dracula can defy. Otherwise Dracula would be a judge to issue warrants for his fellow vampire officers.

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[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

similar question.

do vampires need visas to enter a country?

can they cross borders freely?

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (27 children)

if you surround the earth in a megastructure shaped like a house do all vampires on earth instantly die?

[–] zell565@lemmus.org 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I think it's the Dresden Files mythology? But I always liked the premise that it's not the house that prevents them. It's the magic of a home. They could walk into some house a squatter is living in for a few days with no issues, but a home where people truly live make it their own, have families, memories...that's what gives the threshold power.

IIRC, even in that universe, a vampire can force it's way in, but the threshold strips it of most of its power if not invited.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

I doubt that this would affect vampires at all. The rule is that they can't enter your house without being invited, not that they have to move if you build a house around them.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (10 children)

Must be dumb friends. The answer is no.

A warrant isn't permission from the owner, or anyone inside the house.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

but it's a cop so likely won't be following the rules even for a vampire

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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

A vampire police officer would have to abide by both rules. They would need a warrant and an invite. A warrant is legal permission, but not an invite.

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[–] catty@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

A job doesn't change or define what you are. A vampire would not be able to enter.

[–] fleebleneeble@reddthat.com 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I think the vampire physically could enter because the warrant is basically allowing them to enter a space they otherwise would need express permission from the person that dwells there. I haven't known a cop otherwise to serve the warrant and then just stand awkwardly waiting for permission to enter afterwards. If we are to believe that vampires exist in this context and follow "traditional" rules, you best believe a vampire could be in any given profession, especially because night work is more prevalent than ever. There would certainly be a vampire cop who works at night and takes advantage of the way warrants work.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Vampires are older than property law, I think the power that keeps them out comes from physically dwelling in the place. As long as they're still living there, regardless of what a judge decided, it's their home as far as a vampire is concerned. Otherwise they could just ask each other for permission to enter someone else's house. I'm trying to remember if this came up in Buffy...

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[–] DrSoap@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

I think hearth magic doesn't work that way. When you live somewhere and set up a presence, it becomes your domain. A warrant doesn't take that away from you. You need permission to travel safely into someone's domain.

[–] Ragallos@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago

My wife asked me this just this week! I said that it would depend on how far the vampire is 'removed' from vampires "tradition". As in, if they were a more recent conversion, maybe more archaic methods like legalistic language wouldn't be enough and a vampire cop could enter with just a warrant. But I think an older vampire-cop who would be more bound by whatever lore suits the trespassing curse/stigma, would still be unable to enter your home without your express permission. Its about domain, not so much ownership.

[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago

he could enter but he wouldn't without permission as his vampyrical torment exists deeper than his protect and sever police man gentle nudges.

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

Now I'm thinking about a homeless schizophrenic guy living in his mind palace forcing vampires out is "house" through sheer belief since that seems to have some effect on vampires depending on the lore

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Police don't typically execute search warrants alone. If I knew that specific policeman was a vampire I would address his partner(s) individually and invite them in, but I would not invite the vampire. Explaining to them why he was staying outside would be his problem.

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

In this same vein, if a vamp-cop's partner entered the home, then invited the vamp-cop in, would the vamp-cop be able to enter then?

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[–] alienzx@feddit.nl 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

A... Men... Let's start with grammar.

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