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The Bluetooth chipset installed in popular models from major manufacturers is vulnerable. Hackers could use it to initiate calls and eavesdrop on devices.

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 94 points 6 days ago (3 children)

downvoted for that website's super illegal "pay us to not track you" policy

[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 42 points 6 days ago

Consent required for free use

I think that’s explicitly forbidden by the EU, and it’s a German domain.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

I hate that. I’m looking at you Healthline. I hate that it’s always so high in the results.

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[–] atlien51@lemm.ee 66 points 6 days ago (2 children)

This really makes me hate that we don’t have headphone jack anymore

[–] underscores@lemmy.zip 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (8 children)

Ive always hated phones without the 3.5mm and won't stop even if all phone manufacturers remove it

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[–] arararagi@ani.social 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not on flagships.

Sent from my Redmi Note 11S 5G.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You have a Redmi, you don't get an in here

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[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 81 points 6 days ago (4 children)

The site wants to share info with advertisers. I found this to be refreshingly honest.

We and our up to 185 partners use cookies and tracking technologies. Some cookies and data processing are technically necessary, others help us to improve our offer and operate it economically...

Anyway, can we get an archive link?

[–] trashboat@midwest.social 80 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It’s strange to think about how complicit the public has become with this. You mean to tell me that 185 separate connections to other companies are required for me to… read an article?

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Well yeah, they have to hoard your advertising data somehow. How else can they advertise things that you don't need to buy?

[–] ugjka@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago

The website also wants to drm fingerprint you

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You can get/make your own archive link by going to archive.ph and entering the article's URL.

Here's the link for this one: https://archive.ph/wUAQn

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[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

Instead of hacking Bluetooth, sounds more effective to be an "advertising partner".

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 66 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Unchecked consumer-grade RF signals that are broadcast in every direction are insecure??

Color me shocked!

[–] flux@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 days ago

Well, if these devices required any sort of authentication (e.g. pairing) to free access to their ram and flash, we wouldn't be having this particular story..

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 52 points 6 days ago

Wired headphones stay winning

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Imagine how much data could be collected from, say, a busy gym full of people with wireless headphones, or a hotel lobby

[–] Redex68@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Hah, jokes on them, I managed to fuck my earbuds' microphones so they're useless now.

[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago

You did WHAT with them?

They don't GO there....

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[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 23 points 6 days ago (2 children)

So glad I use wired earbuds and refused to buy a phone that didn't support them.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Same. I can't find any Bluetooth headphones whose batteries don't die in 4 or 5 months anyway. Meanwhile my Moondrop wired headphones have been going strong for almost 3 years.

[–] Zeoic@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (6 children)

My sony earbuds lasted 5 years before I decided to replace the batteries in them, which cost me $20 and 30 min. I would hope other earbuds wouldnt die in only half a year

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[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

LOL at the big debate I read just yesterday about how better wireless headphones are, and how useless jacks on phones are nowadays...

[–] viking@infosec.pub 25 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Sounds like the attack scenario is very sophisticated and targeted, and only works within the range of Bluetooth low energy (BLE) connectivity, so 10-15 meters under best circumstances. At that point they might as well eavesdrop on my calls in person.

[–] wintermute@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I think BLE is only required for the initial compromise (extracting the pairing key). After that the attack can be performed over classic BT, and can impersonate either part (headphones or phone) to the other.
It's still very targeted and sophisticated, so no reason to panic unless you have reasons to think someone with the resources could target you.
Regarding the attacks, they go way beyond eavesdropping calls, since BT headphones usually have access to contacts and smart assistants, that you can use to extract a lot more information

[–] tehfishman@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Directional antennas exist and are very inexpensive

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 days ago

10-15 meters might be good enough to conduct the attack from a neighboring office or apartment, while actual eavesdropping is not so easy.

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[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 19 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I had a neighbor about 6 years ago that blasted rap at full volume every evening.

rap booming in the background

one fine day

"hmmm, what were these headphones on bt again? wait... soundbar. I don't have a soundbar.

hmmm, I wonder"

device paired

Jellyfin>Artists>..... Meshuggah

Obzen

Combustion

play

Volume 100%

"I think I'll go to the store for a while!"

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

They said I was mad when they removed the headphone jack - well who’s mad now??! AHAHahahahaaaaaaahhhhcrap it’s me.

I’m still mad. Fuckers.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

What is that site asking me to agree to? No thanks

[–] viking@infosec.pub 12 points 6 days ago

GDPR. First time opening a European website? German ones like this are particularly transparent (by law, not choice).

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

... and this is why I don't use bluetooth on anything.

[–] rodneyck@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I never have it enabled unless I am in the car driving and need driving directions or listening to music/podcasts. I prefer wired headphones, but manufacturers are making that difficult.

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