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[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 112 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They want cheap workers, not more.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Actually what they want to do is go to the government and cry "we can't find work, please give us subsidies"

It's why they come up with literally impossible job requirements like the "need 8 years job experience" for an entry level job.

[–] ITypeWithMyDick@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

PhD required

15 years experiance for task that only existed for 2

Able to work with no direction

Able to work under extreme stress

Hours are 6am-7pm, 7 days a week

Pay range is $8-$9 an hour, upper range only availible if you extremely exceed above requirements.

Position is salaried, so no OT.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

I'm fairly certain that those kinds of positions are "offered" on the expectation that they won't be filled so they can fill them with cheap foreign labor.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a labor shortage for unskilled labor (I hate that term). They want cheap labor, and those folks are not destroying their bodies for minimum wage. Good for them.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Businesses have a solution to such a shortage. I think it has to do with paying people more? Idk, been a while since I've seen anything like that.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They have begun to pay them more, but front-line management has an expectation that they need to produce more than what they were being paid for. Wages are stagnant for a decade and finally get a cost of living adjustment, but they want to work them like dogs.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah. It's all behind on the wage side but the business side isn't seeing it that way. They think they're owed something extra for the increase, while in reality they have failed to keep pace and should expect less and less because of that (including a labor shortage).

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee -5 points 1 year ago

It's almost like you read my comment.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The struggle is real

Try that in a small town.. no really try it.. you may be able to work at McDonald's if you know the right people.

God I love being a janitor

[–] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Best I could do in my hometown was call center for an alarm company. The pay was $12/hour (in 2010), but we were completely disallowed anything on the floor other than 1 (one) pen, 1 (one) blank notebook, and a water bottle. Our computers didn't have internet access, so we got to sit there with our thumbs up our asses until the phone rang.

I lasted about 4 weeks.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

I'd have doodled my ass off. Then quit in 2.

[–] RQG@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd write a book or something.

[–] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well I haven't had the benefit of a bunch of worms massaging my synapses, Mr Fry,

[–] RQG@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Just avoid brain slugs and you should be fine.

[–] toxicbubble@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

news: a million jobs opened up

the jobs: 🗑️

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There has never been a labour shortage. There has always been a compensation shortage.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago

"Nobody wants to wo-" Nobody wants to hire.

[–] RyanLiu@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago

There's a shortage of cheap labor. Lower your standard to slavery and suddenly there's all the jobs in the world!

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I feel like job boards should phase out companies that have a record of posting jobs they're not actually hiring for because "HR says we have to before we can hire from within."

Why is that even a policy to begin with‽ Hiring from within first instead of making a song and dance about "trying to" hire from without just feels like companies being allergic to internal promotion out of abject terror that an official new title will have to come with a raise or some other benefits that are still cheaper than getting some whole new worker.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually, I think you got that wrong. Generally they hire from within first.

They post jobs they don't intend to offer so they can justify hiring an H-1b to the frleds... "See? We posted the job for months and nobody was able to fill it"

[–] Vode_An@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

It sounds like whichever agency is responsible for enforcing the law against fraudulent jobs listing is really slacking. Or more likely it’s never been considered a priority. It should be though, fraudulent listings waste the time of people searching for employment and probably need a job sooner rather than later.

[–] pthaloblue@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Definitely a question worth an interrobang. I never understood the "we need to pretend follow the law so we can break it" policy

HR is a scourge upon this cursed earth.

Nice punctuation.

It's based on a really bad/incorrect interpretation of equal opportunity employment law. Once upon a time I work for a company where if they wanted to promote you, they would post the job internally and externally. Then, a VP would pull you into a room and say something like "You should really think about applying for this position. Do you understand what I'm telling you? You should really really think really hard about applying for this job."

If you applied for it, they would conduct a series of [sham] interviews and then just hire the person they intended to promote to begin with. If you didn't apply, you would be deemed "ungrateful" and forced out. Oddly enough, they had a similar practice for company vehicles. If they wanted you to have a company vehicle, which just meant they could monopolize more of your free time, they would bring you a set of keys like, "This is your now. Drive it." It was never a request. More of a directive. And you couldn't say no or there would be consequences.

Pretty much exactly the kind of place that would feel the need to pretend to follow federal employment law and generate lots of paperwork demonstrating how thoroughly they're pretending to follow it.

[–] Lepsea@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

If we can't enslave you what's the point of hiring?/s

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

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(sorry, I know it's not really relevant, but with your title, I couldn't help it lol)

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