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Brett Wilkins Jun 16, 2025

Flight-tracking websites showed dozens of Air Force aerial refueling planes departing from military bases in the United States and heading to Europe on Sunday, fueling speculation of direct U.S. involvement in the widening Israeli-Iranian war.

Military-focused news sites reported that around 30 U.S. Air Force KC-135R and KC-46A tankers were identified by flight-tracking software in what The Times of Israelcalled an "unprecedented mass deployment" to Europe.

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[–] smol_beans@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Early 2000's era nostalgia goin real hard

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Operation Desert Shield, redux, again. Hey at least the music of the era is relevant again

https://youtu.be/VI3C6MROOvY

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

The worst part of anti-war music is that it never stops being relevant. Blast off! It's party time!

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[–] catty@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I fucking hate this rhetoric which is: OIL! GAS! BUY OIL! BUY GAS! KEEP PUTIN HAPPY! OIL! GAS!

No one was taking the 'war' between Israel and Iran seriously last week after the initial surge in oil price because the USA was like... "yeah, nah". Now, after a quick call from Putin and bam, all this BS about how the US is pandering for war to drive commodity and share prices up when it's a nothingburger.

Remember kids, buy oil, buy gas and do as you're told.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think RATM had something to say about your last 4 words

[–] catty@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Retail traders beg to differ though and are doing as they're told.

"Thank you sir, may I have another!"

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 32 points 1 day ago

We need to fix the voting system. ALL pacs should be banned and campaign spending should be limited.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (5 children)

A-10 movement always preceeds ground deployments. They moved those to Kuwait at the end of March. This has been coming for a while, its not an unplanned thing like it appears.

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (13 children)

worry not. remember this is TACO Don... he'll chicken out again

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

He also said if he was president there'd be no more wars, so this obviously totally super duperly cannot happen.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not a war, it's a special military operation.

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[–] sudo@programming.dev 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This comment will age poorly if he don't.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

that's not even in the list of things I'd consider giving a fuck about

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

He openly calls service members suckers and losers. I dont know that he much cares whats done with them.

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[–] Auth@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I'm seeing a lot of posts drumming up war hype and WW3 fears but there is nothing to fight. Iran is already cooked and no one is wants to do a ground invasion of Iran. Iran's allies have abandoned them. This is american security preparing for possible counter attacks and bombing targets, not a full on war. Iran is already at war with Isreal.

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 296 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (20 children)

We just want fucking healthcare and affordable housing.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

Be that as it may, we also only seem to vote for people that we know aren't going to actually do what they say, except on the issue of immigration.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 126 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Sorry, best I can do is 2 trillion more for Boeing, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin and the like. They're desperate man, they haven't had a war for like 12 minutes, they need to be fed.

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[–] Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 75 points 2 days ago (15 children)

This is basic dictator playbook, problems in domestic politics, start a war and problems change to foreign policy.

Putin has done this multiple times now, and Trump is following up.

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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

US is going to be bankrupt by the time he is done his second term.

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[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So NOW they want to have bases in Europe?

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 1 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Huh? You do know that the US has bases in Europe since WW2 right?

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[–] kayky@thelemmy.club 67 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Time to waste hundreds of billions defending israel while our infrastructure crumbles and our citizens still go without healthcare.

Again.

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[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, so much for peace talks.

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[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 2 days ago (23 children)

Wasn't Trump the peaceful dove?

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[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 196 points 2 days ago (27 children)

God I hate Republicans.

Trump is absolute garbage on every single scale and stat, but it's the republican voters who got us here. Fuck every republican voter.

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[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ueah. Yeah its pretty fucked.

The shitty thing is: this mother fucker woild love iranian culture. It's super good at all the shit he fakes like gold plated shit.

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Please, don't talk like that of Iranian culture. Iran was well on its way towards progressivism, secularism and ending absolute monarchy during the early 1950s, under the presidency of Mosaddegh. This implied developing the country and Iran profiting from its own oil, instead of giving all the profits to British Petroleum, so the US and UK did a military economic embargo of Iran, and staged a coup that reinstated the Shah. Iran could be a perfectly progressive and developed country today if it weren't for the west destroying every country that attempts to take control of its own future.

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[–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Search "Altlantic Trident 25"

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 93 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (12 children)

I didn't call it, but there's nothing quite like a war to distract the population from rampant decline at home.

This one is weird though, Iran is allied with Russia. Israel is allied with the US. Historically, this made sense.

But Trump and Putin playing war together would benefit both of them. It allows Putin to pull out of Ukraine because "Iran provided us much help and they need us now." And it allows Russia to maintain the war economy. It benefits Trump because he wants to play war.

Neither leader would have any actual skin in the game, it's just people's lives that would never contribute in another meaningful way to their power.

I don't like this. This is feeling more 1984 than 1984.

Edit: I like this even worse after I read the specifics of the KC-135R and KC-46A. Each can carry about 200,000 lbs of additional fuel. A single F-15E can hold 13,000 lbs internally. 30 KC-135Rs can refuel an entire F-15E 460 times. Israel has 7 KC-130H (60,000lbs) and 7 Boeing 707s (which is what the KC-135 was based on). This isn't just escalation, this is staging for invasion.

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 1 points 20 hours ago

It allows Putin to pull out of Ukraine

Why would Putin pull out of Ukraine? Russia is currently advancing and has a much better position in this war of attrition, and the more it keeps gaining, the better the "peace terms" will be in the end. Putin's not fearing for his next term since elections in Russia are manipulated, the Russian economy is alive and well, and in military terms he's in no hurry

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[–] Grizzlyboy@lemmy.zip 53 points 2 days ago (3 children)

And again we see old incompetent white men starting another war.

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