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[–] BB69@lemmy.world 112 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Oh this is about Israel. I thought it was about Ukraine and I was very confused

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 32 points 9 months ago (27 children)

i still suspect those conflicts are related. i can 100% picture some FSB guy helping hamas attack or bribing Bibi to create a humanitarian crisis, so western attention, funding and weapons gets drawn away from Ukraine. This is some shit they would pull in desperation.

[–] BB69@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago

Well, I mean, Hamas is funded by Iran. Iran and Russia are good buddies. So…

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

It only makes sense. Russia financing start of another conflict that takes attention away from Ukraine and has 110% certainty of making Jews (Zelenskyy) look bad because of the batshit cracy fascist Israeli government, and USA look bad because their history in middle east and they'd probably get involved directly in some way again (happening right now). Oh also Hamas attacked on Putin's birthday or some shit

Call me conspiracy theorist but it seems so damn obvious

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Conspiracy theory doesn't mean false or crazy. Some conspiracies are crazy/false. But not all. There is a way to generally pick out the bat shit theories pretty quickly though. The more people that are required to maintain a conspiracy, the less likely it is to be a thing.

So for conservatives where they insist that the world is conspiring against them and that they aren't just assholes. They're just assholes. In the case of Russia and China running foreign influence operations. We have evidence they do. We know America does. And we know ML or people generally from .ml domains are generally just anti American hypocrites eager to play along just to bash America.

That said, if they are doing this. And they are. Pelosi just gave them plenty more ammunition. The United States is making a lot of unforced errors when it comes to Israel. All we had to do was step back for a little bit and act cautious.

[–] Sunforged@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I saw a video of an Israel official on RT blaming Russia and vowing revenge. I also saw some analysis that some of the weapons Hamas had were from North Korea and Russia would've had to have helped get the weapons there. There is all kinds of disinformation going on about the Israel war, so I take everything with a grain of salt.

Calling for a stop to an ethnic cleansing campaign is not pro Russia. If anything, Israel's behavior has greatly increased the threat of harm to its civilians, and its image on the world stage may never recover. Same for the U.S. ever trying to claim moral superiority.

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[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 9 months ago (7 children)

I've said it before: Every Democrat I know in real life seems like an empathetic person, so it's astonishing they choose these ghouls to represent them.

[–] arymandias@feddit.de 85 points 9 months ago (2 children)

My running theory from observing from across the Atlantic is that participating in American politics is mentally destructive. You are confronted by two frankly terrible options, so you either accept you live in an undemocratic country or you have to convince yourself that one of the parties is actually good. No matter what choice you make, it breaks something in you.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Maybe this is what leads to so much cultlike behavior and unquestioned loyalty to one party or the other. And if you're anywhere outside these parties, or you so much as criticize a sitting politician, then you're hated from all sides and accused of being a Russian bot, which is especially disappointing when you're someone who does hold your nose and vote blue, but that's not good enough -- you have to fully toe the line, or else it's perceived as interfering with a campaign, a campaign which never ends.

We're not really a democracy, are we?

[–] ShibaInuTheDoge@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

#WashingtonWasRight

#ButAlsoHeWasKindOfAnAssInOtherWays

#ButRightAboutThis

Also, I love your username. I have two shiba inu.

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

See the thing is for the most part the only people who question the loyalty is Democrats who only choose Democrats because the other choices more terrible and then the Republicans are in questioning because they're filled with hate and propaganda.

Yes, I know you could say the same about Democrats but that's not what studies show. Sorry about your feelings. (Not to the person I'm replying to specifically, but anyone who takes offense)

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Democrats who only choose Democrats because the other choices more terrible

Literally me, and it's super hard to do this when I have family and loved ones being detained or deported by a system that Democrats uphold, and neighbors suffering from lack of access to healthcare. Imagine seeing and experiencing all this and then being told that voting's not enough -- that we also can't complain about it, lest we be dismissed as "Russian bots" or "Chinese shills." Imagine never seeing certain people again, and then being told that I'm the one who's privileged because I have the audacity to complain about it.

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

and then being told that I'm the one who's privileged because I have the audacity to complain about it.

Yeah and I tell them and I'm using my privilege to protect those without. Exactly what people with privilege are supposed to do.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Imagine never seeing certain people again, and then being told that I’m the one who’s privileged because I have the audacity to complain about it.

Dad had a heart attack right in front of me. He was complaining about chest pains a few days earlier but didn't want a hospital bill. I've never been the same person since.

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[–] Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 9 months ago

You nailed it

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (4 children)

That's because Congress has been piss-poor at being representative of the people.

It's usually not about who shares the policy positions of the electorate as much as who can scrape together enough money to buy enough ads to convince them that they're the one most likely to beat the other team.

That's how Pelosi became Speaker in the first place in spite of having no legislative accomplishments to speak of nor seniority: she was simply the best at collecting fat checks from rich people and their corporations.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Our "democracy" does this by design. Looking at history, it's hard to believe we can ever fix this.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I know. All the rules are written and being written by the already rich and powerful. Based on the world's oldest national constitution still in use.

Who would have thought that perpetually basing society on the opinions of a bunch of slave owning WASPs would lead to inequality ‽

And then we're supposed to feel enthused about voting for the candidate who's gracious enough to harm fewer marginalized groups, rather than feeling perpetually depressed and miserable about the whole situation, which seems like a normal reaction.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I wouldn't say it's by design. It hasnt had any updates in quite awhile. It's like a Commodore 64 trying to play Skyrim. When it was designed, the world was much different. We have not updated our government to catch up.

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[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago

the good ol' lesser of two evils.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You dont really get a choice on who the party chooses to prop up and runs. See, Bernie Sanders. But, hell, I've seen it ag the grass roots level in my state. The people with the power in the party decide who goes on the ballot.

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[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

They're convinced that they don't have a choice.

[–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (4 children)

In my experience they appear to be until you bring up some issues, then they turn into bloodthirsty monsters.

For example, my my goes completely Ooga booga genocidal when Isreal is brought up.

Or on housing: She won’t even entertain any solutions that don’t let landlords keep exploiting people’s basic need for homes. She gets all “why should they have to give up property? They worked for it! Shouldn’t they be able to make money?” She can’t possibly empathize enough to value the basic needs of most people over the right for people who already own more than they need to profit off of others who have less than they need.

Honestly, I think most of them just don’t like the aesthetic of the Republican Party more than they’re actually opposed to conservative politics.

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[–] db2@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (7 children)

A prerequisite for being a politician is also being a narcissistic sociopath. The few that aren't/weren't are the deviation from that, and usually get hamstrung if not just killed anyway.

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[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Jeffries is toeing the same line.

There is a huge generational divide in the democratic party between those who benefit from the US police state and those who are suffering from it.

This seems to map very cleanly onto whether people support the Gaza genocide.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Jim Jeffries? I knew that cunt was up to no good!

[–] Rubezahl@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (13 children)

What has she done?

What ceasefire? Which one, of the numerous conflicts now on Earth, is referred to here?

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 32 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Pretty sure it’s in reference to this past weekend she got approached by someone demanding a ceasefire, and Pelosi’s response was for that person to go back to China because they are also genociding Uygurs. She later claimed she thought the reporter was a Russian plant or some unhinged bs.

So, not even the usual ceasefire bad because right to defend. Just ceasefire bad because whataboutism.

[–] RampageDon@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

The news source of "menzmag" is reporting about her freak out on the pro Palestinian protesters on her driveway this weekend.

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[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 17 points 9 months ago

Pelosi said that pro-Palestine protestors should be investigated by the FBI for ties with Russia

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[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Meanwhile does more shady stock trades while everyone is looking the other way

[–] arymandias@feddit.de 6 points 9 months ago

Let’s hope the trial is handled swiftly before the The Hague invasion act is activated.

[–] dasgoat@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

She told activists to 'Go back to China where your headquarters is' which uh. Is interesting to say the least.

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