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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Posse Comitatus:

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/posse-comitatus-act-explained

What does the Posse Comitatus Act say?

The Posse Comitatus Act consists of just one sentence: “Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.”

In practice, this means that members of the military who are subject to the law may not participate in civilian law enforcement unless doing so is expressly authorized by a statute or the Constitution.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

These are California marines, could the state of California prosecute them?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

Not for a federal crime, no. Same reason that state police can't enforce immigration laws.

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[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Key Headlines

  1. 18 minutes ago - 700 Marines ordered to assist in Los Angeles
  2. 8:01 AM PDT - Newsom plans lawsuit against Trump administration over deployment of National Guard
  3. 12:34 AM PDT - 29 arrested Sunday as protests intensify in downtown LA
  4. Jun 08, 2025, 9:06 PM PDT - Small fire erupts behind LAPD skirmish line during immigration protests
  5. Jun 08, 2025, 9:05 PM PDT - LAPD chief denies ICE director's claim of 2-hour response time during protest
  6. Jun 08, 2025, 7:46 PM PDT - Bass criticizes Trump over National Guard deployment, says violence will not be tolerated
  7. Jun 08, 2025, 6:11 PM PDT - Anti-ICE protesters set Waymo vehicles on fire in downtown LA
  8. Jun 08, 2025, 4:54 PM PDT - Newsom calls for Trump to rescind order deploying National Guard troops in LA
  9. Jun 08, 2025, 3:56 PM PDT - 101 Freeway closed in downtown LA amid confrontation between protesters, police

Image of Headlines:


700 Marines ordered to assist in Los Angeles

A U.S. official confirmed 700 Marines from Twentynine Palms, California, have been ordered to assist in Los Angeles. They are expected to arrive over the next 24 hours.

The Marines are from the 2nd Battalion, 7th Marines at Twentynine Palms, California, whom U.S. Northern Command had said Sunday were on a "prepared to deploy status" if the Defense Department needed them.

They will join 300 California National Guardsmen who are on Title 10 federalized active duty status in California. Those National Guardsmen were mobilized by Trump through Title 10 authorities and are under the command of U.S. Northern Command.

"We'll see what happens. I mean, I think we have it very well under control. I think it would have been a very bad situation. It was heading in the wrong direction. It's now heading in the right direction," President Donald Trump told ABC News' Karen Travers.


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[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 19 points 1 day ago

Which they are not allowed to do.

[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Did he suspend the Posse Comitatus Act and no one reported it?

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

does he even know it exists.

[–] kruhmaster@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Piece of shit traitor. America will swallow him whole when this is over.

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[–] flandish@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

what stops a member of the armed services from denying a command or order if it is unlawful? what about if it may be unlawful? (ie needs to be proven as such but “right now” just smells unlawful?)

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Officially the guidance is to comply but document and raise the question after...

Unofficially if you refuse and make it clear you're taking the court martial and chain of command folds.

With this situation the real question is if they standby and watch ICE/cops abuse citizens, or if they interject and stop the violent side.

The military has much higher standards on what acceptable.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

yeah makes sense. i think after the drama from the massacres in vietnam they must have tried to pivot and change tactics in those regards.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago

Indoctrination/brainwashing.

The official stance is that they SHOULD ask questions and point out their objections... to their superiors. Who will, in turn, raise their own questions. Until it gets to a lifer who doesn't give a fuck and just wants to burn a family to death so that they can take credit for a successful mission and maybe get promoted in a few years.

But, in the meantime? It doesn't matter if you support The Mission. Hell, your NCO doesn't either. But what matters is that you want to protect the men and women, but mostly men (because women are for raping back at base), in the foxhole next to you. So go get the gas can and follow some orders.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Right... Because you need 700 highly trained military personnel to deal with civilians.

[–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 20 hours ago

That is in contrast with untrained cops having fucking tanks in their disposal though. I don't argue your point, but it just sounds like some sort of a societal sadomasochism.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 day ago

Cool and normal! 😬

[–] SpicyLizards@reddthat.com 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope their always faithful to their country, not their dictator

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 13 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

You had three homonyms in your sentence and took the bold strategy of using the same spelling for all of them but got it right twice.

66%, still passing.

[–] GreenMartian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 22 hours ago

Huh. I always thought homonyms need to both sound the same (homophone) and spelt the same (homograph). But a quick search showed they could be either.

My whole life has been a lie.

[–] bricklove@midwest.social 3 points 21 hours ago

This makes sense because establishing a beachhead on Iwo Jima and managing a rowdy crowd are similar skills

[–] jownz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (7 children)

From what I've heard about the high integrity of the U.S. Marines, I wouldn't be surprised to see them on the civilian side of the line.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

It depends. One of the things you want to do as a dictator is to bring in units from distant areas, because the local ones will see the people as their neighbors. Trump made that mistake, so I doubt the Cal Guard is going to do anything. The Marines are from Twentynine Palms, but they could be from anywhere originally.

[–] brandon@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Protestors should start bringing packs of Crayola to lure them across the line.

[–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago

Or just start throwing crayons at the Marines, I'll bet the dress blues in my closet they'll laugh at that.

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