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[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 12 points 8 hours ago

Clone myself.

Send clone through teleporter to pull lever.

360 no scope snipe the imposter clone motherfucker.

Claim credit for saving people.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 12 points 8 hours ago

If you teleport the people off the tracks then you can kill them all while still taking credit for saving them.

[–] SupremeDonut@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The Trolly Problem of Thesius

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

The salesmans trolley problem of Theseus if you try to find out first how to get everywhere efficiently.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 16 points 11 hours ago

Doesn't it depend if the teleporter open a up a wormhole or used replication?

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You’ve shed and replaced every atom that you were made of when you were born and many times over since then, are you still that same entity?

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, but you didn't shed them all at once. If the ship of Theseus exploded, and then they built a new one, the question wouldn't be, "Which is the true ship of Theseus?" it would be, "Hey, did you guys see Theseus' new ship?"

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 48 minutes ago

How many components have to be changed all at once for it to be a new ship?

If all but one of the planks is new but one of them is from the original ship is it still the original ship, if not then how many planks from the original ship need to be included in the new ship for it to be the original ship?

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

It’s all just abstract philosophy on a non-reality scenario, I’m just having fun with it.

On a heavily relative note, though, has anyone watched Space Dandy? The show about a dandy guy in space?

[–] xeekei@lemmy.zip 13 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Shit like this always remind me of the videogame SOMA.

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Have had that game in my library for years, maybe I need to play it

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You should. It's incredible. Just realize it's a walking sim. If you're okay with that then def play it.

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah that's fine, Death Stranding was amazing too and that's mostly a walking sim aswell

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 6 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

That game has the best story and atmosphere I've ever seen in my life (maybe except for HL2)

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

I kinda wish SOMA hit for me but I was already well-aware of the "teleportation problem" and have an established position, so instead I was frustrated at the slow pace of much of the game and annoyed that the protagonist didn't understand. It felt like "Bioshock at home".

[–] xeekei@lemmy.zip 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Half-Life is very different but also extremely good. And that's despite it not even being my favorite Valve series, Portal is.

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

If you liked Portal 2, check out The Entropy Centre on Steam. It's extremely similar but the puzzles are based on a different concept. Super freakin' fun though. And a great story, just like Portal 2.

Also Portal Revolutions (fan made mod) is absolutely fantastic. It really felt like Portal 3.

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[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I hate this comic. Your alarm clock is proof that you don't truly lose consciousness in the way this comic implies when you go to sleep.

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 minutes ago

Yeah, it's a weakness in the comic, but you can fix it by imagining being frozen (in a sci-fi way that doesn't form I've crystals that kill you) then thawed.

You'd awake just like from sleep and there would have been a period of true nothing in between.

Did you die and a new you was woken up? I say there is no “true you”. There's a body having your memories and behavior, thinking it's you and that's all that matters. There is no magic piece that actually gets loost when you get frozen or teleported. A you enters, a you leaves, so nobody died and nothing is lost.

There are no souls, there is no magic continuous bit that gets handed over to the next moment, there just the pattern, so as long as it persists, you are alive.

[–] malloc@lemmy.world 26 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Depends if teleportation uses TCP or UDP

[–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

UDP teleportation sounds pretty questionable.

[–] lemsip@sh.itjust.works 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

And what compression algorithm are they using?

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 11 points 13 hours ago (22 children)

Define "you." An identical collection and pattern of atoms and subatomic particles? Then yes. A continuous consciousness as experienced by the "me" on the entry side of the teleporter? No.

Would I kill myself to save five lives and create one? Yes

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

There is no way to know that were not constantly dying and being replaced. The experience of continuity may be an illusion because you don't notice that you're only alive for a split second, and replacing the consciousness that was alive a split second before you.

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 minutes ago

I say there's no rational reason to assume you aren't constantly “dying” and being replaced by next moment's “you”.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago

Okay? That's all well and good, but there is a way to know that a transporter does kill you. Given a choice between maybe living or definitely dying, I'm gonna choose the former.

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[–] Sabin10@lemmy.world 58 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

If it's jot you then the question becomes, are you willing to commit suicide so a reasonable facsimile of you can save some strangers.

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 19 points 16 hours ago (5 children)

I'm willing to die to save people, so if some version of me actually gets to survive it, with there being a chance that it is me, then there's no reason for me not to do it.

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