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[–] bier@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago

Too many features but also autocomplete isn't working? So I guess you do want many features?

[–] CodeMonkey@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

All of those are things that have happened to me (except an IDE that could not handle externally edited files). They are very rare occurrences, but still annoying when I have to get something done.

[–] Kojichan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I just code in Notepad++. I make an error, I fix it. It doesn't work, I just dump variables to see what I did wrong and where.

[–] Docker@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago

Thanks for sharing this here 😊😊😊

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Meanwhile: vim and Emacs users, constantly installing and configuring plugins to emulate a fraction of the power of IDEs, go "just use vim/Emacs".

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So, you've never actually used Emacs?

And possibly also never used vi either?

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

LOL. Let me guess "just use Emacs/vim"?

No thank you bruv. Been there, done that. Terrible experience.

https://github.com/emacs-tw/awesome-emacs

https://www.spacemacs.org/

https://vimawesome.com/

https://github.com/lunarvim/lunarvim

All of these emulated only a fraction of the power of IDEs, even after weeks of trying to get them configured properly.

Inb4 "you're doing it wrong". Nah mate, IDEs work out of the box and don't require opening a text file to change settings while going through reams of documentation.

I right click in a file and it shows me the most important contextual commands. No need to find the " leader key", scroll through all the 1 billion commands, I don't have to "download a LSP and DAP" then "configure treesitter" or whatever the fuck kind of apes are in the editor.

Those editors have steep learning curves and get you productive eventually. IDEs get you there much more quickly. Yeah yeah, they hide complexity and "people don't know what's actually going on anymore" but sometimes I just want to get going instead of fighting my editor first. Feel me?

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

All those wondrous IDEs were nowhere to be found 20 years ago, especially if you didn't run windows. While Emacs did it all and more.

So yes, you had to read the documentation. That's what we did back then. We still do it when someone can be arsed to write one.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I know, back then people knew what files and directories were. Good times.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That knowledge is gone. Everything is a web app running JavaScript in a browser. We don't need to be encumbered by pesky things like pages and folders. 😋

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[–] zagaberoo@beehaw.org 1 points 1 month ago

Easymotion is the only plugin I need to be happy.

[–] mdhughes@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

I only use nerdtree, and bind some scripts to F-keys. Haven't updated in a couple years, just works.

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