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YSK that in 16 States in the USA has banned Ranked-Choice voting, including 5 that has just banned it in 2025, and 6 of those bans happened in 2024. (ballotpedia.org)

submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works to c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world

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RCV trends: Four states ban RCV in 2025, bringing the number of states with bans to 15.

(Okay idk why it says 15 up here then later says 16, somebody on that site probably didn't update the title text)

As of April 30, five states had banned RCV in 2025, which brought the total number of states that prohibit RCV to 16.

Gov. Mark Gordon (Republican) signed HB 165 on March 18.

West Virginia Gov. Patrick Morrisey (Republican) signed SB 490 the March 19.

Kansas Gov. Laura Kelly (Democrat) signed SB 6 into law on April 1.

North Dakota Gov. Kelly Armstrong (Republican) signed HB 1297 on April 15.

Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders (Republican) signed HB 1706 which became law on April 17.

Six states banned RCV in 2024.

Why YSK: If you're a US-American, its time to pay attention to State and Local politics instead of solely on the Federal. There is a trend in conservative jurisdictions to stop progress in making elecoral systems more fair. Use this opportunity as a rallying-cry to pass Ranked-Choice Voting in progressive jurisdictions, and hopefully everyone else takes notes. Sometimes, all you need is a few states adopting a law to become the catalyst for it to become the model for the entire country, for better or for worse. Don't allow anti-RCV legislations to dominate, counter the propaganda with pro-RCV arguments. Time to turn the tide.

Edit: fixed formatting

Edit 2: Added in the map so you don't have to click the link:

See the pattern? 🤔

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[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It occurs to me that the electoral system might be used in Pres elections to work (very slightly) in that direction. What if a number of associated candidates made a pact that their electors, if elected, would vote for whichever of the pact makers got the most popular votes overall? Like if Sanders and Biden and Harris were in a pact like that of Democrats (named chosen of unlikely future candidates). People could vote for whichever, avoiding split-the-vote tactics. If Sanders won a state, but Harris got more pop votes nationwide, his electors would instead vote for her. Complicated maybe, but it wouldn't need any constitutional changes, and might make disasters like a Trump win less likely. Dumb idea?

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago

it wouldn’t need any constitutional changes

You need a lot of states to change their laws. Some states ban faithless electors unless the candidate they pledged for dies. So unless we're yeeting the candidates off a building in order to stop fascism, you can't change your electorsl votes.

Also, if you're method of avoiding fascism is by relying on the electors to keep their promise, you're ending up with disaster.

In the 1800 US presidential election, the system at the time was that 2 votes are cast by the electoral college, the one with most votes is the president and the with the second-most votes becomes president (stupid system, right?). Electors of the Jefferson-Burr ticket was supposed to have one of their electors vote for Jefferson, but not Burr, so that Jefferson has just 1 vote more than Burr, making Jefferson President and Burr vice-president.

But NONE of the electors did that. They all voted for both, which resulted in a tie, resulting in a contingent election. (They later added an amendment to make Pres and VP two separate vote counts, which we have today)

I don't have faith in Electors to make good plans. Although Electors are handpicked hardcore supporters of a candidate, sometimes their fanaticism can make irrational decisions, including even ignoring instructions from the candidate they supposedly support. (For example: Some Sanders supporters did not vote Biden in the General election, even when Sanders endorsed Biden)

[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Sarah huckabee did something awful??? Shocked I say

[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

I hate it here in the South.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Did y'all think the regime gonna just let you change the rules of the game that keep it in place...

Cute

[–] lowleekun@ani.social 5 points 3 days ago (4 children)

"Obey! Resistance is futile 🤖" Thats how you sound my friend. I know it is not easy to see any ways out of the shit the U.S. is in but giving up beforehand is called doomerism and it is one of the biggest cancers alive.

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

To add on to this: Maine did add RCV, as well as many blue cities in blue states, refer to the map I just added to the post (it's a screenshot from the source).

[–] FrostBlazer@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If we keep growing interest locally, people will become more familiar with the alternatives. The more cities and counties that use alternative voting systems, the easier it gets to pass these alternative systems statewide.

While many state lawmakers are determined to push back against alternative voting systems, there is always the possibility of flipping the rules back down the line, especially if more states in general flip blue, progressive, or independent.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Did you read the same comment as me? I read that as "why would the powers that be wilfully give up the path to that power?"

They're not saying "obey". They're saying this shouldn't be a surprise.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 5 points 3 days ago

This is in fact what I meant to convey.

This is a fight worth fighting even if it is futile as it will expose how nasty the oppression really is. Most people assume everything is kosher because they never try to step out from the normie way of thinking where they accept everything as is.

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[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

For real, you better count on sunzu1/2/3 to come out and give up all hope while indirectly giving us his infinite wisdom.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I am not giving up. I am commenting on the current political conditions.

Also, my work speaks for itself and obey aint it ;)

People must exhaust this avenue among others before borne understands the conditions imposed on him/her

At least people are waking so team peasant got that going. It will take a generation or two.

Remember that by the time FDR stepped in plebs spent 2-3 generations shedding blood for the cause. But it still took a cripled nepo baby with sympathy for the common man, along with parasites botching the economy for the change to happen. And it only lasted like 40 years.

[–] lowleekun@ani.social 3 points 3 days ago

My bad. I guess i took the "Cute" the wrong way.

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