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[โ€“] DemBoSain@midwest.social 15 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I'll say it again and again and again:

The fediverse is hamstrung by the need to choose a specific server.

I remember trying to help people join Mastodon when Musk bought Twitter. Every question I heard was about picking a server.

What's a server?

Why do I have to pick a server?

How do I pick a server?

Then there were the more thoughtful questions.

What happens if the server I chose goes down?

What happens if someone chooses the same user name as mine on a different server?

Mastodon, Lemmy, etc. won't get mainstream traction until someone solves this simple hurdle.

[โ€“] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 7 points 2 days ago

The first time someone told me about mbin/lemmy, I had that exact issue and just gave up on it for a few months. This is especially true as there doesn't really exist any account migration (nor, probably, can there be one without any kind of centralized auth server or the like). I finally did move over, but two of the instances I used just shut down, one with basically no warning.

[โ€“] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And they don't even say server but "instance". Like need special words to keep the unwashed out.

@DemBoSain @Sunshine
I think that a part of the "server hurdle" can be solved - at least for brand new users - by initiatives like the Vivaldi Social network.

New to Vivaldi? Nice - welcome. Would you like to join Mastodon? Register here. Boom.

If people have heard about Mastodon and are curious about it, this is the easy way to get them hooked. No talk about servers or instances - you register and you are off to the races.

How this all plays into the decentralized nature of the Fediverse and who is going to fund those servers is a different question - but it is definitely the easiest gateway for new users (as you can see, I was one of them).

[โ€“] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I keep hammering home: instance doesn't matter when you start. It's more important for you to join. Once you join, you'll figure out the instance and then you can switch.

[โ€“] XM34@feddit.org 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can you though? You'll lose all your data, your posts, your liles, your comments, your curated list of communities and usually also your Username. People don't like giving up their entire existence just because they made a wrong choice in the beginning.

[โ€“] araneae@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is the position of migrating social medias in the first place though.

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[โ€“] Codeschubse@ohai.social -4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

@DemBoSain @Sunshine you're like my dog on walkies.

What's a tree?
Why do I have to pick a tree?
How do I pick a tree?
What happens if the tree I pick suddenly moves?
What happens if there's already another dog at that tree?

Jokes aside โ€” as long as people desperately try to see problems where there in fact aren't any, people will have problems.

And no, explaining the fediverse to newcomers isn't a problem. Never was, unless people wanted it to be, so they have an excuse to join bluesky.

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[โ€“] taladar@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

I wish fewer people would "appreciate" micro-blogging and short videos in general. It has too much of an influence on public discourse and the short posts aren't really suitable for the complex issues we face today.

[โ€“] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Particularly considering Facebook (I will die before I call it meta) blocked major Islamic Indians on their platforms as well as the biggest Islamic news outlet in India. Standing up your own instance on mastodon/lemmy/friendica/Pixelfed is the best way to avoid getting shut down by billionaires who kowtow to fascists.

[โ€“] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Is that due to the war/skirmish/thing with Pakistan?

[โ€“] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

I think itโ€™s due to the Modi governmentโ€™s naked Hindu nationalism.

[โ€“] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Most are still on X here :(

[โ€“] Stzyxh@feddit.org 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

X lost 11 million users in the EU

Not really happening in the Czech Republic

[โ€“] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago

Japan still stubbornly holds on as well. Insta eventually started to take over some things from Twitter, but tons of stuff is still there. I created a BlueSky for the small business I'm starting here in Japan and my wife asked me what that was and why no twitter.

@Sunshine โ€žDas einzig Vernรผnftige wird immer erst dann in Erwรคgung gezogen wenn alle anderen Mรถglichkeiten ausgeschรถpft wurden!" Es wรคre ja auch zu Blรถde wenn man das Richtige macht solange man noch die Wahl hat zu Spinnen, sich Illusionen hinzugeben, Zeit zu verlieren und Geld zu verbrennen.

[โ€“] HubertManne@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't get why more companies. Especially ones who might be concerned with control of their content like I dunno. lets say news agencies and the like. I don't get that they would not want to run their own instances and federate.

[โ€“] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

Especially when the Canucks account was hijacked by Elon Musk placing his crypto scam video as the top post on their page.

[โ€“] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

Tbh I have little interest in either of them

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