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[–] Gobbel2000@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

"We also want to send a signal that we want the weapons in Ukraine to fall silent permanently"

There is really hardly a worse signal they could send than to visit a huge military parade by the aggressor country.

[–] Ekybio@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago (2 children)

For context:

The politicians are from BSW, which would be charitable described as tankies. The BSW splintered from the left-party some time ago and has always been VERY pro russia and reactionary.

So no, no actual leftists going to Russia, otherwise they would fall out of a window...

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

But it's also worth mentioning this split was made by party members leaving and not Die Linke throwing them out or anything. Wagenknecht would still be a prominent member and likely face of the party today if she did not decide to leave on her own accord. I say this because some people think they're far right extremists or something which is not the case at all. They're authoritarian left because yes, that exists. Extremism is bad in any shape or form. Even when it comes from the left.

[–] Shyze3D@feddit.nl 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can‘t simply throw out people in parties in Germany. There are examples where parties tried to get rid of politicians that did not fit the partie‘s views without success.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

They didn‘t try despite the awful stuff she propagated and that‘s what they should be measured by. „But it probably would have failed“ is such a lazy excuse to not even try something so necessary.

[–] Fitik@fedia.io 0 points 3 days ago (3 children)

no actual leftists going to Russia

But far-left and populist left are still left? Them being extreme doesn't make them non-left

Being authoritarian doesn’t make you “far left” it makes you “authoritarian”.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago

The BSW has very few positions that you could describe as "left" at all.

[–] Stzyxh@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago

There are actually many debates about whether the party is really left-wing or not.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

representing the German left-wing party Bündnis Sahra Wagenknecht (BSW)

False flag... these have become right-wing, extremist even, without admitting it.

[–] spechter@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

where they will attend the Parade with other communists like Viktor Orban

this article, probably

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I mean, - about real leftism, - Yaroslav Hashek's book that need not be named in Eastern and Central Europe has such a wonderful quote - "the human wants to be a giant, but in fact he's shit".

I've actually found a German translation in project Gutenberg:

Der Mensch möchte ein Gigant sein und ist ein Dreck, Kamerad.

This also relates to any pretentious ideologies with their pretentious symbolic.

[–] Novocirab@feddit.org 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Interesting, and concerning, that this is an article by the dominant German news agency DPA. The clarification that it's about members from the BSW, rather than Die Linke, first appears in the third paragraph of the text.

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

Non-germans wouldn't automatically think of Die Linke when they read 'leftist party', so i guess DPA might choose for a different headline for their English language publication.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 days ago

there really should be more distinctions than just "left and right". Things being like this serve only the ones in power who want to keep us at eachother's throats by having this stupid divide. It also doesnt really describe anything to someone who is hearing about the terms for the first time and is based on age old things (which side of the hall your party sat).

This is one of the things that keep us all chained up and it needs to change.