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[–] some_dude@lemm.ee 45 points 16 hours ago

Trust me, Google already knows your home address.

[–] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 28 points 16 hours ago

They don't even pretend it's for security reasons and just admit it's for ads 🤣

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 30 points 17 hours ago (2 children)
[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Aaaand now 1,337 other users can reset your password and steal your account.

[–] Kobo@sh.itjust.works 15 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] simop_jo@lemm.ee 3 points 14 hours ago

We may not always have that option...

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 16 points 18 hours ago

They use it for Google Maps as a pin. Nothing new, and not particularly weird either. You can just skip it and not tell them.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Just click skip? They just use it for traffic notifications on maps and stuff.

[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

But at some point, there will be no skip button. You know it, I know it, we all know it. This is like the creepy uncle who starts out by giving you candy and playing football in the yard. Then he wants you to sit on his lap before candy or football, but you can jump off whenever, until the day, he won't let you. That is what these companies have been doing. I still remember the arm twisting they did when they took over youtube and we all liked youtube so much, we ended up giving in to it.

The end game for them is to own all your personal information and have total control over your online activity. Them giving you a skip button is a fake comfort. They probably already know where you live too.

For my part, I have just accepted that my basic bitch info is out there. Whatever I haven't shared myself, have been shared either by a phone book service in my country or by databrokers who have sold my info to random companies and scammers.

Anonymity online is an illusion unless you are a very tech savvy which most of us are not.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I was just thinking how much we've lost. Each generation grows up with this stuff being normalized by people saying "it's fine just skip it". But the early days of the internet was so much different compared to the people today.

[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It took them less than a decade to make us accept this new order online. From 2010 to 2015 more or less.

Personally, I miss when online communities were places where you shared things you found online. I miss when it was a place where you could personalize your profiles and where people still enjoyed reading blogs and things like that.

I miss when the internet was for people and not for corporations.

It was scary back then too, with pedos, hackers and so on, but it does hit differently when corporations are in control of how we interact with one another and they get to set the rules for what they can demand of you before connecting you with their platforms.

I do hope that someday this corporate chokehold on the internet will collapse and we will see a revival of true free and creative "social media" like it used to be. I miss the blogs and the forums and the art sharing sites that didn't suck ass like they do nowadays.

[–] zenforyen@feddit.org 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Totally agree on the pre-2010 internet being more human. Now not only the platforms are centralized, half of the blogs you find are now AI generated incoherent garbage.

There is still good stuff, but now you have to work really hard to find it among AI slop, Ads, paywalls etc.

I hope the fediverse can establish a new form of the old internet. Lemmy instances are now the self hosted phpBB forums of this decade. And even on the corporate platforms there are some thriving niche communities.

Maybe it was just that the pre-2010 internet was driven primarily by nerds of some form. With the smartphone it went fully mainstream, and that broke it. It got streamlined and commodified and monetized to turn any kind of "engagement" into profits, instead of, well, just being a place where many random quirky people are doing their thing and sharing cool stuff.

Remember when "Homepage" was still a concept? Now I guess for most people it's their Instagram profile, or something like that.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I blame content creators. The minute PewDiePie made a million, it was game over. There should’ve been a unified front from the start to reject the PewDiePie model. We didn’t see it for what it really was. The internet was always going to get taken over by profit-driven motives. The only way to stop that would’ve been making the internet a hostile place for people chasing profits.

Think about the timeline. Profit focus leads to ads and data collection. That leads to political groups using that data to run research and push propaganda. Corporations are gonna do what they do. Blame isn’t a light switch—it’s a pie chart. And if we don’t start naming the villain, we’re going to lose the next space too. Whatever space we think is ours. We have to stay sharp when the profit seekers show up, even if it’s just some cool comic book guy trying to sell a few books. They all end up in the same place.

Any space created by hackers and nerds should create a new religion of sorts with principals and values to prevent another take over of whatever space they create in the future.

[–] zenforyen@feddit.org 1 points 3 minutes ago

Sounds like the teaser for "CommieNet: The Nerds Strike Back", but on a serious note, I think you are right.

In some sense, digital resources are non-scarce resources, they can be copied and multiplied. There is no capitalistic pressure innate to information, not in the way we consider other resources to be scarce.

But such a digital utopia still would have costs for hosting the content and it would need to stay afloat in the profit-oriented world with finite resources and hard costs for running servers. So it would have to be donation based, or subscription based. Ironically, inside it would have to be strict about prohibiting anything that is effectively monetizing anything that happens inside.

And someone would get the money earned from these subscriptions or fees and this would necessarily end up being some non-profit organization which would have to be somehow community driven, and would decide what is accepted in the space it has to take care of.

But this sounds like a kind of internal governance, like a whole state, a body of rules, that exists within the community of everyone participating in that special network. This council would have responsibility to prevent corruption on the network and at the same time prevent it's own corruption.

I could go on, but I guess it's pretty clear that creating a uncorruptible social space is exactly the same problem as creating an uncorruptible truly democratic society. If you figure this out for an internet platform, you have figured it out for the real world.

So I guess it's not gonna happen ever. It goes always like this - something nice grows, at some point it starts to rot, implodes, from the ashes something new can emerge, rinse and repeat. Just humans being humans.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 1 points 14 hours ago

This is a very long comment when they definitely already know users addresses, lol

[–] jasonwnclife@lemm.ee 75 points 1 day ago (1 children)

More like asking you to confirm what they already know.

[–] lay@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, ridiculous isn't it.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 6 points 20 hours ago

Recently validated data has more value tho

[–] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 93 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You can skip that step. Not that it's okay, tho.

[–] Nikelui@lemmy.world 69 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Next year:

Sorry, your login looks suspicious. For your security, you've been permanently locked out of your account.

Since you never willingly gave us your address, you cannot submit a request to regain access to your account. Thank you for all the data. You cannot contact us. Have a nice day, dumbfuk

[–] Owlboi@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

not for now, but forever. they'd be in huge trouble with EU regulations should they ever dare to change it

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 35 points 1 day ago
[–] Pirata@lemm.ee 8 points 22 hours ago

They already force phone numbers in the EU.

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[–] kalipixel@reddthat.com 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There are some people who will put this data, the ones who usually agree to all cookies. So even if you let users skip, with some dark patterns you can manage to influence a lot of people. Example: I set up local windows accounts for a couple of family members, yet somehow a week later or so they had online Microsoft accounts connected.

[–] dan69@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago (2 children)
[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Use Google's address.

[–] Zyrinth@sh.itjust.works 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TranslateErr0rs@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago

Yeah, and they still owe us money for the electricity bill

[–] wwb4itcgas@lemm.ee 33 points 1 day ago

Oh? Just what I was looking for! An opportunity to be manipulated more effectively by my owners.

You can change or remove this any time...

Haha, cute.

[–] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 day ago

What kind of bullshit is this?

God, I dislike Google so much. Funny to remember that once their motto used to be, "Do no evil." Ha, good times.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 14 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

It's been doing this for over a decade. It's used by maps to create automatic pins for home and work, for easier routing (and profit if course).

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 9 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

With your phone they already know it and where you are in every moment, if you don't desactivate GPS.

[–] sqgl@beehaw.org 1 points 15 hours ago

Unless you live in an apartment.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I mean this isn't new. How do you think you can say go to work or go home and have maps take you there.

[–] Hirom@beehaw.org 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's less creepy than asking "This is your home address, isn't it?"

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[–] gil2455526@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 19 hours ago

Seeing this post made me realize I have fallen for this trap already.

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[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Bruh, I was testing some android features and wiped an android phone, then when I tried to log in again, they wanted a verification code from the previous device, the one I just wiped. Not even will a phone number satisfy them.

Its essentially locked out, unless I get a time machine to undo wiping the phone.

I mean, what happens if someone lose their phone and wants to log in to google to wipe their device? Like... how would you obtain the verification code on a phone a thief now has?

Its just even just privacy issues, Google is braindead when it come to their "security".

Luckily, I wiped it in settings so FRP was off.

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[–] quickenparalysespunk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

9876 rode st., vilij, provençe 012345

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Use Google's address.

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