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[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I am a religious person even and this is insane. Do these people not read the Good Book? Trump is clearly the antichrist. And still all these chodes have... simp-pathy for the devil (because they simp so hard. I tried really hard to make that joke work this is the best I can do.)

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[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 4 points 23 hours ago

"Under His eye. "

[–] kikutwo@lemmy.world 248 points 1 day ago

How about go fuck yourself.

[–] dryfter@lemm.ee 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is a complete upheaval of the Bill of Rights and the First Amendment of the Constitution per Wikipedia's entry on Separation of church and state:

Jefferson and the Bill of Rights

In English, the exact term is an offshoot of the phrase, "wall of separation between church and state", as written in Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802. In that letter, referencing the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, Jefferson writes:

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.[6]

Jefferson was describing to the Baptists that the United States Bill of Rights prevents the establishment of a national church, and in so doing they did not have to fear government interference in their right to expressions of religious conscience. The Bill of Rights, adopted in 1791 as ten amendments to the Constitution of the United States, was one of the earliest political expressions against the political establishment of religion. Others were the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, also authored by Jefferson and adopted by Virginia in 1786; and the French Declaration of the Rights of the Man and of the Citizen of 1789.

The metaphor "a wall of separation between Church and State" used by Jefferson in the above quoted letter became a part of the First Amendment jurisprudence of the U.S. Supreme Court. It was first used by Chief Justice Morrison Waite in Reynolds v. United States (1878). American historian George Bancroft was consulted by Waite in the Reynolds case regarding the views on establishment by the framers of the U.S. constitution. Bancroft advised Waite to consult Jefferson. Waite then discovered the above quoted letter in a library after skimming through the index to Jefferson's collected works according to historian Don Drakeman.[30]

As an atheist that agrees more with Buddhism and Paganism than any organized religion this infuriating. I went to Catholic Church and school for 18 years of my life, I know what it's like to be "forced" to believe in something you don't.

Are they going to keep records of who goes to what churches and arrest people if they don't go to the correct church at the correct time and day?

I don't give a shit what anyone believes as long as they are not an asshole, that's their own business. I've had people try to shove their religion on me and it's not fun. If I had the financial means to leave this country I absolutely would now even if I was a Christian and went to church every Sunday.

This is REALLY freaking dangerous and scary on top of all the REALLY freaking dangerous and scary other bullshit Orange Man and his Disciples of Dumbasses have been doing since January 20th.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 202 points 1 day ago (3 children)

As if the fucking Christian indoctrination wasn't already bad enough here.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 45 points 1 day ago (4 children)

You haven't seen anything yet. They're trying to build their own Saudi Arabia.

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[–] LuckyPierre@lemm.ee 39 points 1 day ago

Religion is more powerful in countries with low education standards.

With the US government actively dismantling its education system, this is part of that bigger picture of wanting a dumber population so they're more easily controlled - through fear.

A shame to see America go so regressive so quickly.

[–] CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

He doesn't give AF about religion he's no fucking moral centre. This is lip service to his base

[–] overworkedandundersane@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Since when have religion and morality had anything to do with one another?

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[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 94 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I'm all for the separation of Trump's head and body.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Lmao this dickhead who probably can't recite a single Bible verse.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"the Bible. It's great, you know that? So many verses, so many. Many that I know. You want verses? I could give you verses but I'm not gonna do that. Love the Bible."

-Trump, probably.

[–] mostNONheinous@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It’s been proven on live television he cannot.

[–] papertowels@mander.xyz 10 points 1 day ago

"so are you an old testament guy or a new testament guy?"

"...I'd say probably...equal"

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[–] gamer@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He REALLY wants to be pope

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Can he be pope on a rope?

[–] 18USCode2381@infosec.pub 127 points 1 day ago (11 children)
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American Christians will martyr themselves for their silly beliefs. But not before murdering a bunch of people.

[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Each separation of church and State? I was in the impression that the USA was a country that made people sweat on the bible to take a serment, that evocks God in its political speech and discours and even in its moto.

That comment is not sarcastic. I actually feel I miss something to understand the situation.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Swearing on the bible is a choice made by the individual being sworn in. The actual swearing is to the Constitution and the interests of the people. You could swear on a copy of The Origin of Species if you wanted.

The shit about having god on our money, motto, and pledge didn't come about until the red scare of the 1950s. A way to separate the country from the godless communists, and one of the earliest violations of separation of church and state that I'm aware of.

[–] SSNs4evr@leminal.space 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They'll be all about "forgetting" about that separation, all the way up until someone opens Beezlebubs Intermediate School of the Damned - then they'll be up in arms again.

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

By uniting church and state they can claim that “beezlebubs intermediate School of the Damned” goes against the official religious doctrine so it is banned but “holy Christ of the saints of Peter school for conservative belief” is allowed and gets taxpayer dollars

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[–] freeman@feddit.org 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yesterday I watched the documentary "Hail Statan?", about The Satanic Temple. Not a bombastic documentary but shows a bit what they are, what modern satanism is and what they do in the US. They do mostly require an intact legal system to fight christian overreach so maybe its over for their legal battles

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[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago

Trump needs a bunch of people willing to believe anything told to then and the religious crowd seems to have an endless appetite for rage inducing bullshit.

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 82 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Donald Trump signed an executive order yesterday establishing a “religious liberty commission” at the Department of Justice (DOJ) to investigate and present strategies to eliminate “threats to domestic religious liberty.” During his comments on the order, Trump said that he doesn’t know if there’s a separation of church and state and that we should “forget about that for one time.”

Words alone simply fail to adequately describe my disgust and rage at this travesty.

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[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He should forget about 4 year terms. He can be removed at any time.

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