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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The craziest part to me is that it wasn't until they started forcing them to be stuck inside phones all the time that they started exploding. And yet the FTC still doesn't give a shit

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I mean it's not that crazy. If they're removable, you need to design the batteries themselves to be a bit more rugged and harder to puncture.

I.e. cladding the cells in a relatively thick metal casing rather than a thin pouch

[–] uis@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Mine still does. 2 Sim slots and a SD slot. Not one of those Sim/sd combo ports.

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[–] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 10 months ago

EU to the rescue

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Having worked in the industry at that time, there were 2 main reasons they did it like that

  • batteries were quite unreliable and failed often
  • mfgrs couldn't afford to have one year warranties and send out field replacement units for a battery

And the reasons they stopped doing it..

  • batteries got better
  • battery contact failure was higher than battery failure.
  • replaceable batteries compromise waterproofing

I think they should still be replacible, but they should have better connectors that are sealed off from the rest of the device. It costs a tiny bit more to do that engineering though.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (4 children)

battery contact failure was higher than battery failure.

quite a feat, only doable if you try to make it fail

replaceable batteries compromise waterproofing

this is in no way true, and is a bold face industry lie. There is no shortage of water PROOF and not just resistant electronic equipment that feature replaceable batteries.

the reason replaceable batteries were removed is entirely due to planned obsolescence.

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[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago

AlL tHe bEtTeR tO wAtErPrOoF yOu WiTh, My DeAr

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

More and more they are trying to turn everything into a black box. I am assuming it is more convenient and profitable for them.

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago

With early smart phones generation there was basically a race to thinner smartphones. Replaceable batteries need a protective shell so it wouldn’t get damaged easily when idiots fumble with it when they replace the battery. But the protective shell takes up space. So the first thing they did to make phones thinner was to remove the replaceable battery and just use a battery without a protective shell. Also Apple proofed that most people don’t care so all the Android phone makers followed suit.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

A couple of years ago I got fed up with replacing phones because the battery wouldn't hold a charge, so I bought a new-in-box, then-six-year-old LG V20. It has some problems, chiefly bizarrely poor reception, but by God it has a removable battery and a headphone jack! I was going to replace it with the Fairphone when that came to the USA but when I saw how expensive the Fairphone was, I decided to stick with the V20.

(The funny thing is that by the time I need to replace the battery, I probably won't be able to buy one anymore.)

[–] andrefsp@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Grandma is right on this one!

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago

It was stopped because Apple wanted you to deal with their service technicians in their stores using their parts directly. They make zero dollars if you replace your spicy pillow with a 3rd party amazon battery.

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