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[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 110 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

"Neutrality" is such a bullshit term. The point of juries is to be representative of the people's moral sentiment, not to be a collection of morons who knows nothing about the world around them and safe unable to form opinions of their own.

It simply seems like normal people think Luigi took out a very evil man.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 34 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

They want the death penalty because a death-qualified jury means it's going to have a bunch of reactionaries.

A death qualified jury cannot have jurors on it that disagree with the death penalty morally.

In practice, instead of being judged by your peers it's a bunch of people selected so that they like harsh punishments.

That's what I learned when I posted my video to r/TrueAnon.

[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 26 points 21 hours ago

I hadn't thought of that really, that is fucked. Most reasonable people I know are opposed to the death penalty, so that does seem pretty effective for biasing the jury. But maybe they will get some that are like "of course I love the death penalty, that's what Luigi doled out and it was well deserved. Not guilty."

[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 10 points 19 hours ago

Ironically even given that, people are less likely to be convicted when the death penalty is on the table, because people feel bad sentencing someone to death, even if they agree with it.

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 37 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

If we took jury representation seriously, every jury would be a randomly-selected representative example of the population, jury duty would be remunerated very well and there would be stuff like childcare for jurors in place, hell you shouldn't even need to spend gas to get to the courthouse the court should send a van to pick you up and feed you three hots while you're there.

Instead we've got a system where one of the best ways not to get picked is to show up to the court wearing glasses and reading a book while you're waiting because lawyers will see that, assume you're smart, and motion to get you removed from the jury pool.

[–] indeed@hexbear.net 113 points 23 hours ago

sounds like it's quite easy to find a neutral jury (hating insurance companies is a neutral opinion) but what they're really trying to do is find a biased one

[–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 44 points 21 hours ago

We can't find 12 people who hold a neutral opinion on blood sucking leeches who feast on them and their families.

[–] radio_free_asgarthr@hexbear.net 51 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It is important, when being selected for a jury, to lie and say that you like health insurance companies.

[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 65 points 23 hours ago

“Neutral” is an interesting term to use to describe a minority opinion. Sounds like you’re actually trying to find an incredibly biased jury

[–] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 30 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

How tf are they unable to find 10 rich assholes in NYC?

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 2 hours ago

The defense would have to approve the jurors too. Most of New Yorkers are not rich and are progressive.

[–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 32 points 21 hours ago

Those are the kinda people who never do jury duty

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 41 points 23 hours ago

Why can’t we find a neutral jury for the murder of mecha-Hitler?

[–] D61@hexbear.net 40 points 23 hours ago

I see nothing wrong with this.

[–] SpaceRanger13@lemm.ee 32 points 23 hours ago

You would think something impacting so many people negatively would be seen as an assault on all the citizens. If only we had less greedy ceos and shareholders making ludicrous amounts of money, and more people trying to make things better for everyone.

[–] bigbologna@hexbear.net 21 points 23 hours ago

They're just going to kill him

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 15 points 23 hours ago