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You can dual boot Windows. I'm giving everyone here express permission. You can even mass grave up an LTSC copy of windows 10 for a couple of years, it's all cool.
Just be aware! Windows updates do fuck around with the hard drive partitions and MBR, so your copy of Linux might get bricked or partially overwritten once in awhile.
I was not aware of this... Thanks for the heads up. The only device I have dual booting right now is just my Lenovo Legion Go, handheld gaming. Split windows and Bazzite (fedora based)
Guess it's time to wipe the windows. I haven't even used it that much
Good. I'm safe. I single-boot Linux for decades.
As if windows would let grub live
"Whoops I stomped on the MBR again, what are you gonna do 'bout it?"
Change to Linux boot loader grub and two disks... Your old piece of shit disk for windows. The good stuff for Linux. Never look back.... Unless your aunty needs help getting another virus or whatever windows offers.
I refuse. I flat out will not. Is there a couple games I'm missing sorely? Yes. Has the devil been whispering, "Come on... just a hundred gigs for that one game... you'll only have to boot it when you play..." Also yes. But I refuse.
Not today, satan.
its been years since I touched my 200gb windows partition, but it might have something important i might need in future lmao
Oblivion Remaster got me relapsing because I still had leftover game pass subscription. Forgive me my lord. And holy shit Todd managed to stitch Unreal Engine on top of Creation Engine, it's black magic fuckery. Lots of esp only mods still work like wtf.
That's crazy, I would not have even thought to try mods with the remaster.
I copied those files into my home folder years ago and wiped the partition for good.
I do unfortunately still use it for my VR sim racing. But half of that is because I got a quest 3 as an entry point for VR. I'd love to get one where you don't have to fiddle around with video compression and WiFi latency.
Forgive me lord, for I have sinned.
The great flood (me not charging my laptop and leaving it in a humid place for 1.5 years) got rid of that (and everything with it), tho
How about Windows AND MacOS? Asking for a friend.
I dual booted my study pc. Well technically I did. I didnβt use windows for a few months without thinking about it and by then I was too afraid of windows corrupting my linux if I ever booted it. So I effectively just had a Linux machine with half half the disk space. Never had a problem with it though.
I was too afraid of windows corrupting my linux if I ever booted it. So I effectively just had a Linux machine with half half the disk space. Never had a problem with it though.
That's basically my story, as well.
I eventually had a close call where Windows almost booted by misclick - and it scared me it was going to mess up the Linux install I actually use - and I decided the stress wasn't worth it, to me, to keep a fallback copy of Windows around.
When Linux can actually do everything I want to do I'll gladly stop using Windows. It's not there yet and a lot of what it can do is still janky.
There are applications that still don't have a proper Linux port, or any at all. Or maybe the ones that exist are cumbersome to use. I really hate that people downvote you for pointing this out. If you were wrong, Linux would have a much larger share already.
I understand that some people have alternatives for everything they use; I'm happy for them, and I wish to be them. But assuming that if I can do everything I want on Linux in the same quality/convenience/whatever, then others must, as well...
Yeah it's pretty frustrating to hear so many touting it as a replacement and then being met with hostility when you try to adopt it yourself and run into problems. Like I expect there to be some friction moving to a different system but when you're hitting roadblocks every step of the way on what to you are everyday tasks in Windows it gets tiresome quick and I haven't even tried to game on it yet.
As long as it's single player or you're lucky to not want to play League, PUBG, CS2 or Valorant (or RS6 or... basically any of the biggest ones), you should be fine, and there are plenty of games working under Linux. If you do... Well, not now or in the past 20 years.
League ran fine for many years on Linux. The problem is Tencent, not Linux.
Per Riot's own stats, the rates of scripting in competitive league went way up AFTER they rolled out Vanguard, so it's not about anti-cheat either.
but when you're hitting roadblocks every step of the way on what to you are everyday tasks in Windows
Did you buy hardware with Linux pre-installed?
We need to be better about clarifying that, for apples to apples experience, it's best to buy hardware with Linux pre-installed.
Or is AutoCAD one of your everyday tasks? We all have different definitions of "everyday", but I haven't had an issue web browsing on Linux in ages.
Did you buy hardware with Linux pre-installed?
No, It's not like there's an abundance of options for this around. Especially if you want something with a graphics card and you want to lay hands on it first to make sure the construction isn't shoddy. I just did a brief search for laptops with Linux on them and options were extremely limited. This is an unreasonable expectation to have as things stand.
Or is AutoCAD one of your everyday tasks?
Not every day but often. I've tried FreeCAD but it runs like ass on every system I've tried it on, and by ass I mean so slow it's completely unusuable. I finished the entire design I was wanting to do in Fusion360 in the time it took to get a single rectangle sketched in FreeCAD last time I tried it.
We all have different definitions of βeverydayβ, but I havenβt had an issue web browsing on Linux in ages.
If web browsing is your only need then you can do that on a toaster. It's not a good metric to suggest switching to Linux for most of the people looking to get off Windows. Another example of a recent problem I had was I couldn't open pdfs off my network storage because the application didn't understand the SMB in the path. Then there's the fact that my secure boot enrollment randomly disappeared which somehow prevented it from booting regardless of if secureboot was on or not and I had to start from scratch with a new install just to get going again.
No, It's not like there's an abundance of options for this around.
Agreed. It's getting better, but there's a long way to go.
But putting a new OS on something is always going to be a worse experience than pre-installed.
For folks that can find and but something pre-installed that fits their use case, things are very nice, now. Considering most users who just want to surf and stream, it's a really good percentage of folks.
AutoCad / Not every day but often
Lucky guess, I suppose - but yes - that's a more common complaint, and still an unsolved problem. I wouldn't consider it a typical user's issue. I understand how that doesn't help you.
Another example of a recent problem I had was I couldn't open pdfs off my network storage because the application didn't understand the SMB in the path.
I've had mixed-to-bad luck with SMB, both on Windows and Linux. For a counterpoint, SMB has been utter shit on Mac, for me. Buy I agree, Linux SMB support should be made better, if possible.
Then there's the fact that my secure boot enrollment randomly disappeared which somehow prevented it from booting regardless of if secureboot was on or not and I had to start from scratch with a new install just to get going again.
At least pre-installed Linux should address this, once hardware available catches up to your needs. But again, since you need more hardware, that doesn't help you, today.
Edit: To your point, I don't disagree that web browsing isn't the entirety of many people's computer experience. It's just funny to me how often AutoCad comes up. Maybe it'll be a moot point someday in the next few years.
Itβs just funny to me how often AutoCad comes up
I suspect there's a pretty big overlap between people willing to try jumping to Linux/wanting to get away from Microsoft's bullshit and DIYers who find AutoCAD useful.
Hey Jesus can you help me get Disco Elysium running on Kubuntu? I would ask for help with Fusion360 but I would probably need your dad's help with that
There's FreeCAD.
I tried FreeCAD last week, and it was absolute trash. Extruding individual curves from a sketch as surfaces? Nah. Extruding multiple bodies from one sketch? Yes, but you can't select them individually for subsequent operations. Are there synchronous modeling tools? I couldn't find any. Rotation is terrible no matter which option I tried. If only I could get my SpacePilot Pro working with it. Can you even do any advanced surfacing? I could go on and on.
I was hoping for something akin to SolidWorks, which is kind of a second-teir modeling software in my eyes, but it was just a little better than AutoCAD. Maybe I'm just spoiled with NX. I just found it completely unusable.
FreeCAD has a... different workflow.. than other CAD's. It's confusing at first, but once learned, it's pretty easy to use.
I have used FreeCAD in place of Fusion360 for school and I found it better. Of course, not everyone will have basic operations and a different tool has a new learning curve.
Keep in mind that FreeCAD is also in development. No company (that I know) backs the development, making an open-source versatile CAD software takes a lot of time and has a lot of bugs/limitations.
I know I shouldn't say this, but hopefully all tools (even non-free) will be available under Linux.
I try it every couple of months, but as long as it's faster to boot into a Windows install and start Fusion360 than it is to learn how to make a cube in FreeCAD, I'm going to keep my windows install
FreeCAD isn't that hard to use. Just different and not as polished.
I know it's Linux memes but is better than using a bit of both instead of but trying Linux at all. We need more casual people to try Linux. Not just diehards.
The Steam Deck is at least trying to attract the casual users in, and I feel like the Switch 2 getting hammered with bad press right now and getting destroyed by the Nintendo fanbase might convert a few people over to the Steam Deck too.
diehards really kill the community. I think the guys from suckles are most guilty of this
Are you referring to Suckless.org and their Nazi controversy (which was successfully removed from Wikipedia)
I've been thinking about keeping a running windows on the side once I switch my "gaming" system. There's two things that won't work well (or at all) on Linux: fully PC-tethered wireless SteamVR with my current hardware (HTC Cosmos Elite), and a ripping software.
I might keep a small windows running for VR (although I'm currently looking into trashing the hardware if a good alternative shows up). For the ripping software, I'll just stitch a script that uses existing open source software to do roughly the same thing.
And I might just get a small box, like a 200something computer with only Steam and the wireless card, to remote play VR through it, if that's an option.
Bye bye windows.
i can play stardew valley natively in linux. there's no reason to dual boot.
Β―\_(γ)_/Β― been daily driving Linux for at least a decade now...
But I haven't found a way to run my HTC Vive on my nvidia gpu and the updater software for my car on Linux... So I still have a dual boot for those
updater software for my car
Can I just point out that there was a point in time in living memory where this statement would be utterly deranged? (And it'll probably soon be unusual again because of OTA updates...)
Oh, it still is.
That point in time is forever for me. I'll spend a few thousand on a really good bike before I buy a car that needs regular software updates
Hard agree...
Sorry but using less Windows via dual boot setup > Not using Linux at all.
Whatever works for people is the right choice.
sure but this is linux memes , so nuance and rational thought mean dick all mehbreveh