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Well well.. here we go again. I’m ready to give up my life.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I read 50% of the men in Germany died in ww2 ….but yea cool Nazis what could go wrong.? Fuck around and find out I guess

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yep nothing good ever comes from supporting facists

[–] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's baffling how those self proclaimed patriots can celebrate a bunch of traitors who ruined their country by killing off a significant part of its population and starting an unwinnable war that left the country in ruins.

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[–] ragas@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, why vote CDU if they are doing the same shit as AFD but are not as good at it?

[–] AgentRocket@feddit.org 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We don't know how good AFD would be at doing, what they claim. But none of the parties who have been in power over the last 20-30 years have done anything significant to improve the average workers economic status (e.g. make housing affordable, guarantee a reasonable pension, lessen the fear of unemployment, etc.). AFD claims, "if we get rid of the immigrants, everything will be better again" and people are believing it.

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[–] BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 186 points 2 days ago (24 children)

Is the proper response: Well shit.

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[–] RedPandaRaider@feddit.org 58 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (48 children)

And stil the state refuses to ban them, refuses to arrest and sentence their leaders.

It will be Weimar 2.0 with liberals being either too incompetent or too unwilling to stop fascism.

Fascism is not stopped at the podium or in parliament. It is stopped with bullets and bombs. The longer you wait the more bullets and bombs it will take and the more lives it will cost. We need a new, this time thorough, denazification.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Liberal does not mean leftist outside of the USA. Liberal actually means what is called libertarian in the USA.

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[–] gabbath@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

bullets and bombs

I think it's enough to just do: arrests of leaders (and banning them from public speaking but for life) + breaking up the party + outlawing the party + banning people who decide to take up the mantle of/act as a declared proxy for the party and attempt to visibly pick up where they left off.

That last one I learned from my own country''s current situation: in Romania, a crazy far right candidate came out of nowhere (on the wings of illegal undisclosed campaign donations) to win the first round, and as soon as that happened our mainstream far right party's candidate started supporting him. Then they canceled the election because of the undisclosed donations (he literally declared 0 campaign spending!) so now, in the redo of the election, this other guy is basically running as his proxy and will likely try to appoint him PM if he wins.

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[–] seeigel@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Weimar was a small civil war between soldiers who returned from WW1. That's why both the left and the right had fighters. Where should the fighters who shoot the bullets come from now?

The fascists came to power because the elite feared that the communists could win. Otherwise, despite massive manipulation, the fascists never got an absolute majority.

There are many issues that other parties simply ignore. There would be far less voteres for the AfD if the other parties would listen. The AfD started with the demand that the rules about euro stability shouldn't be ignored. That's not a fascist position.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

The other parties are not taking up AfDs made up causes because they are made up.

For example:

A sack of potatoes falls.

AfD: Foreigners are causing the sacks to fall! We must gas them! And the jews!

Other parties: This is so stupid it doesn't even warrant a response.

General public: but the foreigners!!111!1!!!11 and the potatoes!!1! I am outraged!!!111!!!

[–] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Unfortunately, the other parties are very well taking up the Nazis' lies. The Nazis are playing the political establishment like a fiddle.

To stick with your example of the potato sack, the established parties do just jump the Nazi bandwagon and parrot their narrative in a less extreme manner, like "Illegal immigrants kicking over potato sacks is a severe problem, we need to protect our potato sacks by border controls and increased deportations."

Just as one AfD politician remarked last year, (after the election in Thuringia, if I recall right) the AfD is ruling without actually being in the government.

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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago (3 children)

AfD is using fascist manipulation using propaganda (always putting immigrants and immigrant attacks in the spotlight) to gain power and discriminate immigrants even more, causing more retaliation which in turn makes people give the AfD even more power.

In a tolerant society we should not be tolerant of such intolerance.

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

*In an opinion poll

I mean lets not confuse an opinion poll with the truth. These things regularly get things a couple points off. In fact that’s the norm.

[–] amelore@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

a couple points off

Yes so they're first or a close second, that's hardly better.

[–] Waldelfe@feddit.org 31 points 1 day ago

That's what people have been saying for years and yet the AfD is already the second strongest in the last election...

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[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 109 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (23 children)

Plus two percent, a difference of one percent two second place and an error margin of two point five percent. Congrats.

Besides that, I really start to hate these reports. Weekly updates on the Sonntagsfrage are utterly lacking substance, fearmongering (to left leaning people) and reassurance (to AfD voters). Everything we do not need.

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 74 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

In phone polls 4 years before the next election...

Dont get me wrong, this sucks, but its not what the germans actually voted for.

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