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Belarusโ€ฆ? Theyโ€™re definitely not one of the ones people should be buying fromโ€ฆ

[โ€“] bettertecheu@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I cleaned it up. I removed a lot of unused content and also all the translations. I made the map smaller so everything fits inside the stars, and removed Belarus. What is left is pretty straightforward and readable: https://better-tech.eu/content/logos/buyeuropean.svg

[โ€“] SineIraEtStudio@midwest.social 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The internals defenitively look better and you removed Belarus, so that's good.

Did you intend to leave out the words? Without them the big yellow outer circle seems off/unnecessary.

[โ€“] bettertecheu@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Do you not see the two BUY EUROPEAN texts in the yellow ring? How are you viewing the svg?

[โ€“] pirat@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm not that guy, but I don't see the texts in the yellow ring when clicking the link using the hardened (Chromium-based) Vanadium browser on GrapheneOS.

[โ€“] bettertecheu@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Thanks, that helped me fix it.

(Chrome doesn't support writing text along a circle, so I had to make a circle with a path-element. I learned way too much about svg in the past hour.)

[โ€“] SineIraEtStudio@midwest.social 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not seeing the text. Ecosia browser in Android.

[โ€“] Emperor@feddit.uk 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Turkey is also in Europe. Partly.

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 5 points 4 days ago

Technically, Russia is too. ๐Ÿคท

Maybe put the Iceland and the other islands closer together. In my opinion is it not a good idea to put the map over the stars. I would make the map smaller and put it behind the stars if they overlap but they really shouldn't. Besides that does it look really good, keep going.

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 7 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Made in inkscape. It doesn't render well on the web, but somebody can take it and find a better font. It's licensed CC BY-SA 4.0 . The map is from wikipedia and I think they are CC BY-SA 4.0 too. The SVG could not be uploaded as part of this comment, so here's a link.

Multiple variants of the sticker can be exported automatically with the "Export Layers Combos" plugin. The plugin basically toggles layers on and off then exports a PNG. For example to export the image of this post, these layers are toggled on "Maps>>Europe outline", "text layer>>wrap>>en-dejavu", "Background". Those are all part of the "maps" combo.

You can guess from the text layer that there are other languages. I ran this through deepl and translated it to the main languages spoken in the 26 EU member states. A friend already told me that one language was actually just Russian with Roman letters, so my confidence in the correctness of the translations is low.

In child comments, I'll show other variations.

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

QR code of buy-european.net with Greek text and DejaVu font

QR code of buy-european.net with Greek text and DejaVu font

[โ€“] gandalf@noc.social 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

@atro_city Pardon me for saying, but that's a terrible translation!! (greek here)

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No worries, blame deepl ๐Ÿ˜› What's a better translation?

[โ€“] gandalf@noc.social 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

@atro_city ฮ‘ฮณฮฟฯฮฌฮถฮตฯ„ฮต ฮตฯ…ฯฯ‰ฯ€ฮฑฯŠฮบฮฌ (You may want to capitalize the ฮ• in ฮตฯ…ฯฯ‰ฯ€ฮฑฯŠฮบฮฌ (to ฮ•ฯ…ฯฯ‰ฯ€ฮฑฯŠฮบฮฌ) - not sure which is more correct).

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Thanks! I'll make a post asking others for help in other languages. I'm 100% sure there are other terrible translations :D

Out of curiosity, what's wrong with deepl's translation here?

[โ€“] gandalf@noc.social 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

@atro_city It means "take/receive" (not buy, and even that in ancient greek, and even then, in a single moment - i.e. not continuously which would be ฮ›ฮฑฮผฮฒฮฌฮฝฮตฯ„ฮต) "the european" (singular, neutral gender) - but this opens the question: the european WHAT? The european toy? The european ball? There's a word missing there. Whereas ฮ•ฯ…ฯฯ‰ฯ€ฮฑฯŠฮบฮฌ is plural (so it can mean "stuff, in general", so it's ok even without another word).

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Thank you for the explanation. Languages are fascinating. LLMs still have to go a long way to have good translations. This is what I expected honestly. I know some people who speak languages not often found on the internet and the translations are awful.

[โ€“] gandalf@noc.social 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

@atro_city Maybe the translations would be better if you told the LLM you want this for a slogan on stickers for a campaign you're doing.

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You can't give DeepL instructions. Just the text you want to translate (just like Google Translate). It's better than Google Translate for most things.

[โ€“] gandalf@noc.social 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

@atro_city I don't think Europe is any better than other parts of the world, but I think these stickers of yours would have quite an effect if you perfect the design (margins, etc) and they're stuck everywhere.

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 3 days ago

I'm not a graphic designer and have no eye for design. The SVG is provided and licensed under CC BY-SA 4.0, so anybody can open it in Inkscape to make the changes they think are necessary :)

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 2 points 4 days ago

QR code of european-aternatives.eu with French text and gothic font

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 2 points 4 days ago

Buy European with Gothic font

[โ€“] shekau@lemmy.today 5 points 4 days ago

I love the fact that you didn't include Russia

[โ€“] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

There are better map projections available. Even orthographic (Europe-centered of course) is fine for such a small area.

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Could you provide one in SVG format? I'm not sure what you mean.

Orthographic = look at globe from afar. Good for small areas, literally unusable for more than 1 hemisphere.

Wikipedia uses such maps frequently, see the Europe article

[โ€“] eldain@feddit.nl 2 points 3 days ago

Can you put canada where russia and belarus would be?