this post was submitted on 20 Jan 2024
379 points (95.7% liked)

World News

39102 readers
2205 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Russian marines and paratroopers are refusing to launch certain types of assaults due to concerns over the huge losses other troops are suffering, a Ukrainian official said, per the Kyiv Post.

Nataliya Humenyuk, press secretary for the AFU's Joint Command South, said that the soldiers considered "themselves 'elite troops'" and did not "want to go into frontal assaults" typically carried out by former felons and reservists, the outlet reported.

Over the course of the Russian invasion, it has become increasingly reliant on high-risk frontal assaults. It involves waves of attacks that probe Ukrainian positions and seize small portions of territory but cost a huge loss of life.

The Wagner leader, Yevgeny Prigozhin, who was killed in a mysterious plane explosion after leading a failed mutiny in June, described the tactic as a "meat grinder."

all 33 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 72 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I did not find Prigozhin’s plane explosion to be even slightly mysterious

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Well maybe you should just watch more RT. /s

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 35 points 10 months ago

A Russian military blogger estimated that 90% of Russian military equipment in the Krynky sector, a village on the east bank of the river, has been destroyed

Ukraine, where Russian equipment and soldiers end their careers

[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Cannon fodder, dirt tobacco, flank meat, dollar store dishware, expendable.

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

"paper plates" more like

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't necessarily trust the word of a Ukrainian official not connected to any intelligence service like Budanov, but with russian reelections in March I guess there's a need for a little victory, so I suspect there can be a push for more frontal attacks. I'd honestly be afraid of what comes after elections. Grandpa'd absolutely call for another wave of mobilization after securing his position.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Bunker rat always does it

[–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

OR, Ukraine could go all Kelly's Heroes on them. "You know what's behind you? All of RUSSIA. And all you have to do to get an equal share is turn that tank around..."

[–] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Putin: "Some (Most) of you may die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make..."

Paratroopers/Marines: "Fuck no."

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 6 points 10 months ago

Some of you may survive, and will do this again on Thursday

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 9 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Russian marines and paratroopers are refusing to launch certain types of assaults due to concerns over the huge losses other troops are suffering, a Ukrainian official said, per the Kyiv Post.

Nataliya Humenyuk, press secretary for the AFU's Joint Command South, said that the soldiers considered "themselves 'elite troops'" and did not "want to go into frontal assaults" typically carried out by former felons and reservists, the outlet reported.

The number of 'Storm-Z' units (low-grade Russian formations made up older reservists and former convicts) committed to carry out human wave attacks against the Ukraine bridgehead on the eastern side of the Dnipro were now falling, and more naval infantry and paratroopers were being deployed, said Humenyuk

One of Russia's newly formed Russian paratrooper units, the 104th Guards Airborne Division, appeared to be hit particularly hard in its combat debut in the Kherson region late last year, the UK Ministry of Defence said in an update on the conflict in December.

It said the unit "highly likely suffered exceptionally heavy losses and failed to achieve its objectives" during its operations in the area, aimed at dislodging Ukrainian positions near Krynky.

Conditions in the region have made the conflict difficult for both sides, with marshes, water-filled bomb craters, and mud making it almost impossible for troops to dig in, The New York Times reported.


The original article contains 548 words, the summary contains 222 words. Saved 59%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

In other news: Russian elite military, refuses suicide missions.

[–] eldamir@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

“Mysterious plane explosion”…… Sure 😅

[–] groupofcrows@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

It is common for prepubescent planes to uncontrollably explode when excited.

[–] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Blitz tactics could work, but I don't think deploying paratroopers is going to turn the tide once Ukraine realizes what is happening.

As the same anti drone defensive measures that are used in Ukraine, could also be used against paratroopers.

Paratroopers would have to take insane risks for a advantage (creating a flanking position). That Ukraine would have advanced knowledge on.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

I am not sure if Blitzkrieg is really the right word for this. I think it would be to describe them as shock troops. Blitzkrieg usually describes a fast moving battle with no front line. Were light troops and cavalry try to keep the enemy falling back. This is supported by air superiority, all denying the opposing force from forming an organized defense

Shock troops can be part of that, but the use of shock troops does not always mean a blitzkrieg.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

Flying cargo planes at low altitudes into enemy territory with loads of MANPADS is a fantastic idea. I'm looking forward to the videos.