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Microsoft is releasing a big Windows 11 update on September 26. Update 23H2 includes the new AI-powered Windows Copilot feature, a native RAR app, a new volume mixer and a lot more.

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[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 141 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, another system wide crapware that nobody is going to use.

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

They might as well call it Cortana AI

[–] 1bluepixel@lemmy.world 83 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still chasing the dream of mainstream Clippy acceptance.

[–] rem26_art@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

fr tho, MS has been on the digital assistant thing for decades at this point.

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[–] arymandias@feddit.de 62 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I see you are trying to open the terminal, would you like me to:

A: break your knees

B: kill your entire family

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[–] Pyrrhichios@feddit.uk 46 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Gonna get downvoted to crap for this, but what the hell - hi, it's me, I'm that one guy who actually loves Windows a little more with every release. I'm continually surprised by the good stuff that's baked into the OS now (e.g. Much better multi-monitor support) and how the real power users can do a whole load more besides with Powertoys (key remapping!) - It's really encouraging to see that I need fewer and fewer specialist programs to get Windows to work just how I want.

I'm not wildly sold on AI being baked into the OS, but what the heck - Microsoft have earned their goodwill from me in recent years. I'll play around with it with interest.

[–] UnknownQuantity@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was like you until windows 10. I opted out of that. It just felt like losing control over my computer. Windows 11 even more so.

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[–] Heavybell@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I'll be very surprised if AI is actually "baked into" the OS. A client to their cloud AI will be baked in, but that's not the same thing IMO.

(btw powertoys is great, multimonitor support is great too, if they finally fix the task bar I might finally go to Win11)

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[–] Madrigal@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Much better multi-monitor support

Tell that to the Snipping Tool.

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[–] tfw_no_toiletpaper@feddit.de 46 points 1 year ago (5 children)

"a new volume mixer" - please just be an interface change and nothing dramatic 👀

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Or make it open when clicking the icon instead of hiding it behind two clicks. Everytime I use Windows, I love KDE more.

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[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Going off of Dave Plummer's video, looks like copilot is kind of a wash. It has the potential to do some neat stuff on desktop, but its crappily shoehorned into the OS instead.

[–] Kerfuffle@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"This time you're going to love Cortana. For reals!"

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[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every tech company is pulling this stupid bullshit now. Mine is also trying to find any way they can to shoehorn an LLM into their product. It's marketing BS

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Underpants gnomes economics.

  1. Integrate AI into everything, even where it doesn't make any damn sense.

  2. ???

  3. Profit.

Hoping they've made it better since

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[–] ScrollinMyDayAway@lemm.ee 42 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Can we just ungroup the damned Taskbar already? I don't understand why they are being so stubborn on this.

[–] Nankeru@reddthat.com 16 points 1 year ago

That's already available for insiders and can be enabled, meaning it will soon-ish come to the stable versions of Windows 11.

[–] GibSteamCodes@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I recommend StartAllBack. Granted no third party apps should be required for such a simple feature, StartAllBack does this and more.

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[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (9 children)

That's the number one reason I stayed on 10. I'm figuring out a swap to Linux - gaming is my only concern. Might just dual boot.

[–] Vash63@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Other than game devs who intentionally block Linux with anti-cheat (Epic, Riot) almost all other games work perfectly fine on Linux nowadays.

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I actually spoke with one of the people on the team for this the other week.

They have significant money problems. Copilot is expensive as crap to run, and this is about to make the situation 10x worse.

(Also this feature was completely broken a few weeks ago, so I'd be surprised if it launches without a hitch)

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[–] n3cr0@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Who would even create rar archives these days, when there is 7zip?

[–] EyesEyesBaby@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Everybody using usenet.

[–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Memesters, because WinRAR is a negware type of shareware (having an unlimited trial period), which constitutes as being "the good guy".

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Man fuck that shit.

[–] akaifox@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

a native RAR app

It better come with a "Trial Expired" pop-up or I am not using it

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[–] kowcop@aussie.zone 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If I look at what Windows 11 is, its features and the new features, I honestly can’t work out who Microsoft’s target market is anymore.

With the pricing for AI, I can’t even work out which enterprises would consume it.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Here's the funny thing. Some enterprise sectors will not use W11 until it has some sysadmin reliable way to disable all the telemetry. In my company W11 and Chrome are banned because they cannot be locked down from phoning home, which is a security liability. No way they're going to allow a rogue blackbox LLM running wild in our computers.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You just have to use the Enterprise addition and group policy out their stuff. It isn't really hard if you have been doing it with Windows 10 but you have to start with the Enterprise addition and that can be $$$

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[–] Kcg@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This type of shit is why i jumped to linux mint recently. Who the hell removed the right click menu options. I'm sure it will be back as a feature.

[–] muse@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They didn't remove it. Go down to the bottom and choose More Options.

It's bullshit but they're still there

[–] Nfntordr@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Old context menu is still there. Need to do a regedit to make it default again.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Like baking a turd into a mud cookie.

[–] matcherock@feddit.uk 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im so happy I uninstalled W11 and installed W10 LTSC

[–] GigglyBobble@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I'm so happy I replaced Win 10 with Linux and now can watch this dumpster fire from afar.

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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago

The only feature I'm looking forward to is the ability to ungroup multiple instances of the same program in the talk bar. That feature was around forever but for some reason they disabled it in Windows 11.

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