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[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Only the first paragraph or so is readable, however the entire article is viewable from the source. https://grist.org/food-and-agriculture/best-vegan-meat-brands-taste-test-nectar-almost-as-good-as-the-real-thing/

Four of those products performed so well they almost reached taste parity, which Nectar defines as there being no statistically significant difference in how participants scored the vegan product versus the animal one in terms of overall liking. Those four are Impossible Foods’ unbreaded chicken breast, chicken nuggets, and burger, as well as Morningstar Farms’ nuggets.

[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago (11 children)

And I bet all of them are loaded with methylcellulose (a.k.a. nature's laxative) just like every other bullshit fake meat product.

I follow a vegan diet now, but grew up in the southern US around legit BBQ. There is no point trying to replicate that, never going to come close and it's just going to use shitty processed food techniques to accomplish it. If you're going to go vegan, how about actually be vegan instead of chasing a life you decided to leave behind.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

These are not for vegans. Vegans alone couldn't remotely pay back what has been invested in these products. These are for carnists looking for the moral license to continue eating shitty food. Like how when people order a diet pop, they allow themselves any amount of high-calorie food to go along with it. It's a marketing gimmick for carnists, not a solution to any problem vegans have.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

I love the taste of meat, and I’m not going to stop eating meat unless there’s an alternative that tastes as good. Impossible meat is an alternative that tastes as good, so whenever Impossible is an option, I choose it. Whether you think that means I’m moral licensing or whatever doesn’t matter to me, but to some people, you may be pushing them away from making a better choice by talking down to them for trying to improve. Would you make fun of a fat person for going to the gym and working out? If someone is making better choices, you should be celebrating that.

[–] HiroProtagonist@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Carnists" is an inappropriate slur. It's the first time I have heard it but I just know I should probably be offended. I reserve the right to use it on other people.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I can tell you're being funny but I'm not exactly sure what you're saying. Taking your comment at face value (sorry about that), "carnist" was not intended as a slur, and certainly is not defined as one. Carnists are people with the (typically unconscious, unexamined) belief that sometimes it is acceptable or even good to be needlessly cruel and violent to animals. The word contrasts with vegans, who believe needless cruelty and violence are never acceptable or good. It was coined by Melanie Joy in their 2009 book, Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows: An Introduction to Carnism.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The person you’re replying to is the kind of person that makes rednecks proud to eat meat. Personally, I don’t care if someone thinks I’m doing it to virtue signal; I’m going to eat meat alternatives when they taste as good as meat, and Impossible meat does taste as good as meat. Reducing our overall meat consumption as a society is a good thing.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I tend to think things like toxic masculinity and fear of empathy do far more to make rednecks proud of eating meat. Though, the mere presence of someone who does not eat meat for moral reasons is unbearably aggravating for many people.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, true. You shouldn’t let that make you feel jaded though. If someone is dipping their toes into meat alternatives, encouragement can really help them. :)

(Please don’t visualize that metaphor. I just did. 0/10, do not recommend.)

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[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I get what you mean especially in comparison to the real southern BBQ. However things aren't rational ... I used to have cravings for meat all the time and a random veggie dog or burger would make it go away.

I don't really chase the vegan lifestyle so there's probably a market for those people like us that would try to eat vegan/veggie more often than they do.

[–] AbeilleVegane@beehaw.org 4 points 1 day ago (18 children)

Yeah, but what if they're not loaded with methylcellulose, or what if we do eventually come close to the real meats or what if this is a gateway product that could convert carnists?

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Can't remember the brand it was but I tried these vegan chicken nuggets once that did indeed taste like chicken. But they also had the texture of wadded up paper, so it was just weird. I'd get them again if I could remember the brand.

[–] 32sqft@mander.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago

Actually, I think that might be it.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You should try Impossible’s chicken nuggets. I love them. I prefer them over real nuggets.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm a sucker for the gardien breaded veggie tenders. Stick em on a bun with onion, lettuce, jalapeños, veg mayo, and sriracha, and you've got some serious deliciousness. It ain't particularly healthy, but man does it hit that fast-food craving.

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