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Apple hopes to convince people to buy its $3,500 Vision Pro headset using free 25-minute in-store demos::undefined

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[–] Devdogg@lemmy.ml 48 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (21 children)

Oh. My. Goodness.

$3,500?!? HAHAHAHAHAHA

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 36 points 10 months ago (12 children)

It is not meant for the end consumer at this stage, it is a tech demo and development kit.

The real consumer variant will probably be released in a year or two.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 40 points 10 months ago (7 children)

take a deep breath and realize; if you cannot afford this, you are not rich enough to be part of apples target audience.

no matter how much you want to tell yourself that you are.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I didn’t know apple target audiance was a total of 400.000 people which is the total amount the’ll make of these.

Seriously this is a proof of concept for rich kids children to be test users. I doubt it will visible move the needle on their profits.

You have some strange ideas, do android users enjoy being the “target audience” of google?

I am loyal to no brand, own a mix of devices and boycot some. Love tech, fuck capitalism.

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

It certainly is a big beta test product. I see it like the Tesla Roadster.

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

Isn't that kind of like saying that if you can't afford 2024 MB S63 AMG then you're not in Mercedes Benzs' target audience? I bet the profit Apple makes from selling iPhones dwarfs the earnings from selling these goggles even if they're successful.

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[–] BrownianMotion@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Is 25 minutes a long enough in-store demo test time to have a $3500 wank?

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

The bigger question is what will you do with the other 24 minutes?

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 29 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Half of the US can't afford a $1000 emergency. $3500 for a toy seems steep in that context.

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's what credit card debt is for!

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[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Half of the US is over a hundred million people. The rumours are Apple has supply constraints that will limit global sales to about a million devices for now.

This can't possibly be a mass market device - it's just not possible right now to manufacture that many. The tiny screens are 3,400 DPI and 5000 nits (that's about 10x brighter than a typical TV or computer screen). It's going to be a while before tech like that can be mass produced.

They named it Vision "Pro" which in Apple marketing speak basically means "the really expensive one". Their "Pro" desktop PC tower has a baseline price of $7k and fully upgraded it comes in at almost $13k which is actually cheaper than they were when they used Intel Xeons a couple years ago (those could hit something like $80k).

There will probably be a non-pro equivalent one day, which will be far cheaper.

[–] kibiz0r@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Oh hey, it’s that time again. Copy-pasting from the last time around…

Because the price is always the main topic, I’m gonna drop a link to an AR/VR expert contextualizing the Vision Pro price within the current (well, 7 months ago) market:

Apple Just Beat the “BEST VR Headset In the WORLD”.. and did it cheaper.

[–] naught@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Norm from Tested on yt had good things to say after his hands-on with the headset iirc a while back. This is just the price of a flagship VR device ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] HerrBeter@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For $3500 it better be good. But I doubt the value is added linearly since you get a pretty decent vr headset for under $800

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[–] Blackmist@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

OK, but that doesn't make it affordable or relevant.

It's like comparing a Ferrari and a Lamborghini. It doesn't matter because the world runs on Toyota Corollas.

Additionally, VR lives and dies on software.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

Oh yeah like I wanna get head lice from the snot-nosed kid some mom dumped there so she could go get some Starbucks in peace.

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Honestly, I just want to experience it for 25 minutes and then I think I would be good. My Valve Index does enough for me for gaming, and I am not wearing a headset all day to work.

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[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The price is always the joke, but this is aimed at commercial buyers right? Not consumers

[–] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 37 points 10 months ago

Oh boy, you've got a lot to learn about apple consumers

[–] Yewb@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If its amazing like revolutionary amazing it would change my mind, if it's just a vr headset nope.

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[–] erranto@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I don't believe Apple made this product to sell. it might be just marketing ploy to keep people talking about Apple and how they are always ahead of the curve. they have a brand reputation to maintain.

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[–] ordellrb@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Is this VR or AR or both? And how robust is the actual software support?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

It's whatever you need it to be, baby. Just hand over the cash and Apple will make your dreams come true.

[–] DrinkMonkey@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago

To give a non-snarky answer, it does AR with external cameras and an incredibly low lag such that those who have tried it have said makes it almost natural (the resolution apparently isn’t perfect, but there is no discernible input lag when looking around which happens on other similar devices). But you can dial up the opacity to wind up in a fully VR environment. So, it is in fact, both.

Your question about software is a big one. Apple is advertising 1M apps available at launch (good) but these are iPad apps, which can run on Vision OS without any modifications by the developers (not so good). That does not mean it will be a good experience. I was listening to a podcast today where a developer clearly stated that after getting a chance to try their app on device at a lab, they totally stopped development because they missed the mark completely with their imagination and the simulator on how it should work. You’ll still be able to run their iPad app, but until they get their hands on their own hardware to iterate more rapidly, they’re giving up.

All that to say it’s unclear how many apps will be natively designed to work with it on launch, and if these will be any good.

Thankfully I don’t live in the US so I am immune to this particular reality distortion field. For now…

[–] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Id buy it right now if it was maybe $500.

Spatial computing is the future.

I don't need 3 screens. I need a pair of spectacles.

Screens have always been the bottleneck. The phone tablet monitor tv.

Glasses can do entire field of vision.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It doesn't even do spatial computing well. It can simulate a single 4k display and that's it. You can have some other apps floating around you, but not much.

If I could simulate 8 4k displays all around me, or freely float my full blown Mac OS programs and resize them to infinity then I'd be cool with this. But I've got more screen in front of me right now than the vision could ever hope to do. And Apples "apps" are far too gimped to be useful. Notes and email are cool, but not much else.

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[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Careful there, that's about the amount of time it takes to realize that it's just a gimmick that has no use in your personal life, and very narrow industrial application. They might actually lose potential buyers rather than gain some.

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[–] GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’d buy one if it were useful enough.

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[–] ExLisper@linux.community 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Can't wait to see people wearing those around the office. Thinking about it. if you remove the desk, monitors, keyboard, mouse and just sit down bunch of programmers next to each other with those goggles it can actually be cheaper for the company to run an office even at 3.5k per headset.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (12 children)

a monitor keyboard and mouse costs more than 3500?

what the fuck are you going to do at work without a keyboard and mouse?

what

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[–] fhek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago

That’s a no from me dawg

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

A $2k CAD phone I can justify if it’s going to hold me in good stead over the next 6 years and have another 6 full OS upgrades straight from the manufacturer. My iPhone X held up great for 6 years, and only started struggling in 2023.

A $3,500 USD fashion accessory? What are they smoking, and can I have some?

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