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[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The major platforms are convenient.

But the open web offers something better: genuine ownership, community governance, and independence.

This has a kind of underlying connotation that the open web can't be convenient. This is not true.

It is true that lots of platforms on the fediverse (Lemmy included) don't have the best user experience and user journey flow. But that's not how it has to be. We don't have to accept that as a given.

It's the same problem that Linux faces, where UX issues aren't prioritised because the user base is technical enough to deal with the bullshit. We can't let the same thing occur to the fediverse.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 33 minutes ago

But that's the problem though, devs are notoriously bad at UX, and people good at UX don't seem to care as much about FOSS and the open web. At least that's my experience.

So we need people to speak out so devs can fix these little paper cuts in UX

[–] dicksteele@lemm.ee 14 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I’m not a fan of mastodon because it really does feel a lot like other social media sites, I don’t really like any form of advertising, whether it’s intentional or unintentional. People post too much bullshit trying to gain followers. I never cared much for twitter/facebook/instagram anyway.

Lemmy however is a better replacement for Reddit, so far. I remember when Reddit was the replacement and now look at it, a big steaming pile of ads and bots, power tripping admin and moderators, killed 3rd party apps that made the site useable. Hopefully lemmy can remain the same as it is now.

[–] fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

My fear is that, if lemmy gets too successful, that regarding bots the same fate may occur.

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Typically if you're gonna deploy a bunch of bots on lemmy, it's easiest to do via your own instance, which is fairly easy to filter out.

Luckily the federated aspect will help with this a little bit.

Right, but you can also create accounts on different instances, so not really protected. Actually I think it's very difficult to really filter bots when they're done right, especially in times where LLMs start to be increasingly more popular.

[–] el_puercoespin@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Totally agree. These platforms have no discussion culture. They are only designed to gain followers. This means only polarizing content of a very small group of users gets attention and all the rest is not even visible to other people. Reddit or Lemmy is very different in that sense. Even a new user can start a rich discussion because of subs/communities and without the need of followers. Thus the quality of the whole network is overall better.

[–] anotherpurpleheathen@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Just being here has felt freeing in and of itself. No ads omg. It's beautiful. I like the slower pace here too, it doesn't bother me to see the same post on the main page from a few days ago. I think it's a nice break for my senses actually.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 2 points 2 hours ago

I wouldn't mind a little faster paced fwiw, the conversation can stagnate a bit sometimes, but it is what it is.

[–] Daelsky@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Less bots, more genuine conversations, it’s also not as fast-paced as other social medias.

It’s great. It feels like a forum from back in late 2000s / early 2010 and I like it

[–] TooManyGames@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

And even when it gets heated, people still seem to listen and not just performatively push agendas. Seen more "fair enough"s than in years of Reddit.

[–] Daelsky@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago

Absolutely. People treat eachother like they treat others irl.

Yeah though I think it's a little bit too political at times. I get it, Trump and Musk is destroying the USA from within, but I don't need to read about it in every second post...

[–] FIST_FILLET@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

anyone got tips for finding quality memes on mastodon? i love the philosophy of the service, but i have 0 interest in reading political takes from strangers all day, and right now it feels like all i see on the “trending” page is people complaining about politics. i just want to escape the bad news and laugh a little, not get mad at my phone anytime i open the app

[–] commander@lemmings.world 4 points 1 hour ago

You gotta make them.

[–] flopsel@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

Tell me when you found some :‘D

[–] juergen@feddit.org 1 points 4 hours ago

maybe have a extra mastodon account where you just follow positive things and radically filter out negative stuff (even with word based filters)

and then i can just recommend:

  • be patient. The awesome people will be found over time.
  • lemmy communities are also great, but i dont remeber the names. But different instances have some funny meme communities.
  • search hashtags
  • in general explore stuff.
[–] pogmommy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 5 hours ago

I've gone all-in on (properly) federated social media and I've got to say it's been a great experience. After what's happened to Twitter, with Zuck's recently stated plans for Meta, and TikTok's immediate Trump cocksucking, I realized that all privately-owned platforms are as good as compromised, no matter the utility they otherwise provide.

Instagram was more difficult as it was how I found out about a lot of local events, and was my primary connection to a lot of old friends, but it was worth it. I actually reach out and talk to those friends who I previously just followed. It's restored some actually connection that social media had stripped away, and I find myself avoiding the endless scroll I used to get caught in.

I'm still working on evacuating YouTube, but using RSS feeds to be more deliberate about whose uploads I'm notified about has helped a ton.

[–] Spaniard@lemmy.world 25 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The selfhosting movement sets people free in general.

[–] aleq@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Does selfhosting movement include using non-commercial instances of apps like mastodon/lemmy/matrix etc?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 29 minutes ago

Sure? If you help fund it, definitely. You're not self hosting, but you're still involved with those who do.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Self hosting movement is hosting stuff yourself, so kinda, assuming you're not putting some kind of advertising on your own services, but most commonly I'd see things like jellyfin, nextcloud, navidrome, immich and then a bunch of other stuff, there's foss alternatives to most commercial offerings.

Awesome selfhosted

Is a great place to start.

[–] aleq@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I should probably have put quotes around "selfhosting movement", because I meant the term itself. Reason for asking is that if it doesn't include shared instances, then it's not a very big movement and most people will not really be able to join it.

That said I'm not trying to start a discussion on whether it's good or bad, IMO it's good and I self-host a lot of things for personal use myself. Just a thought I guess.

[–] scripthook@lemmy.world 49 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

I tried Bluesky for while but honestly I like Mastadon and Lemmy better. I'm also testing LOOPS (tiktok replacement) which is from the same creator as Pixelfed. There's something comforting using decentralized platforms that are safe from Government and Corporate intervention

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 9 hours ago

I like that it feels more like the web when I was younger, smaller communities usually with a more specific topic, run by a person or small group.

[–] dwemthy@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

What's your impression of loops so far?
I've been underwhelmed, but I don't know if that's a platform issue or an adoption issue. Found a couple good accounts to follow, but I really want a block option to keep some accounts out of my "for you"

[–] scripthook@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Content wise it’s underwhelming but it’s random videos. There’s more variety than Pixelfed which has an even smaller community. Eventually more trends will catch on to Lopps but I hope there’s more original content once it’s out of beta and public

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[–] orize@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

LOOPS

Where can I DL and try it?

[–] scripthook@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

https://loops.video/ You can download the Android APK or Download TestFlight for iOS to use it. You have to sign up first

[–] orize@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago

Thanks.

Signed up for it, now awaiting activation.

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[–] railwhale@lemmy.nz 2 points 6 hours ago

John Mastodon.

[–] gunpachi@lemmings.world 62 points 15 hours ago (21 children)

I hope more active users move to the fediverse. That way we will have a lot of variety in content and can also potentially prevent communities from becoming echo chambers. I suppose moderation will also have to be taken up a notch for these changes to actually have a positive effect.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 hours ago

I hear echo chamber brought up a lot but never really have seen examples of a place that doesn't have an echo chamber.

I think that's just the natural result of people forming communities as opposed seeking out battle grounds for adversaries.

Only thing that can be done is offering people the tools to freely form as many communities as they want with the main barrier being who feels compelled to join the new echo chamber community.

[–] ghostrider2112@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

Echo chambers are not bad when the echo is due to the majority opinions being in favor of basic human rights and equality. Giving voice to those that spew hate is not conducive to going anywhere except a circle.

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[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 14 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

prevent communities from becoming echo chambers

I suspect this will still become a problem since we can subscribe to whichever communities we like and vice versa.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 14 points 12 hours ago

It is a feature, not a problem.

I have, like, this whole rich life offline. My curated list of instances and communities (plus my user block list) is just my entertainment and a small portion of my day.

You may not believe this but I have numerous thoughts, activities and interactions that never leave a trace online. I have no obligation to drink from the firehose that is being pumped from the septic tank of the human psyche.

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