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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (8 children)

So... now Framework Corp is selling non-upgradable hardware?

I dunno. Conceptually I want to like Framework. But their pricing means it is basically never worth buying and upgrading versus just buying a new laptop (seriously, run the numbers. You basically save 10 bucks over two generations of shopping at Best Buy). But they also have a system that heavily encourages people to horde spare parts rather than just take it to an e-waste disposal facility/bin.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

It will be faster than most next-gen laptops, and it's much cheaper than a similarly-specced Asus Z13. Strix Halo uses a quad channel 8533Mhz bus, 2 full Zen CCDs like you find in desktops/servers, and a 40 CU GPU. Its more than twice the size/performance of two true "laptop chips" put together.

Everything except the APU/RAM/Mobo combo is upgradable, and you don't have to replace the whole machine if the board fails.

I mean, if you don't need that kind of compute/RAM, this system is not for you, and old gaming desktops are probably better deals for pure gaming. But this thing has a niche.

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think the framework desktop would be an absolute powerhouse as a workstation desktop.
Think developers ( that still use desktops ), people who do raw computational power for science, servers, ai development, ...

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[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

No, the pc is upgradable. They explicitly said in the event that the desktop was suppose to be an actual desktop with replaceable parts as much as technically possible. Only ram is tied to the mobo/cpu because of technical limitations of the amd cpu

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago

At least memory is soldered on because of high throughout they say.

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Are they going to at least make memory modules available for those who want to solder their own?

[–] naonintendois@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can order those directly from chip suppliers (mouser, digikey, arrow, etc.) for a lower cost than you could get them from framework. Also those are going to be very difficult to solder/desolder. You're going to need a hot air station, and you need to pre-warm the board to manage the heat sink from the ground planes.

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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So can someone who understands this stuff better than me explain how the L3 cache would affect performance? My X3D has a 96 MB cache, and all of these offerings are lower than that.

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[–] SuperSleuth@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago

What's crazy is I still can't make it onto their website without waiting in a 20 minute queue. Stupid.

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