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And Campylobacter, Cryptosporidium, E. coli, Listeria, Brucella, Salmonella.. It's the Macy's parade equivalent of preventable diseases by UHT and y'all been invited!
On the other hand, unrefrigerated raw milk is a fantastic way of meeting who's who of the bacterial world.
For some people it's the only culture they'll ever have.
But it's natural! And natural always means it's good for you, because I'm scared of chemicals despite not knowing what a chemical is because I can't pronounce their names!
Exactly, Salmonella can be on its own a great way to boost your defenses*.
*If you survive it.
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Yup
This post is stupid
There's a reason the milk man used to deliver every day
To bang my mom?
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I think there is confusion between raw milk, pasteurized milk and UHT milk. Only UHT milk doesn't need to be refrigerated but it tastes horrible.
Only UHT milk doesn't need to be refrigerated…
While it’s still sealed. Once opened, it needs to be refrigerated.
I’m that weird guy who prefers the cooked taste of UHT pasteurized milk.
Another weird UHT enjoyer here. If it weren't so expensive where I'm at then I'd be having it more often
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This is such a dumb take. I don't trust raw milk, but those that do aren't arguing it won't spoil at room temperature. Like, I support buying local, free-range chicken meat. But if someone came up to me and said "Oh yea? Well if you like chicken without antibiotics and preservatives, why do you still refrigerate it?!" I'd look at them like a fucking idiot.
Maybe the joke isn't particularly fair, maybe it doesn't really need to be.
You have logical reasons to avoid antibiotics and preservatives. Someone might not agree, but whatever the case, you made that decision based on some amount of evidence.
Raw milk though... I think the meme is correct to equate anger with pasteurization as a denial of germ theory. We pasteurize and refrigerate for the same reason: to keep bacteria from growing. It is a fair question: if pasteurization is unnecessary, why is refrigeration necessary? Avoiding preservatives doesn't beg the same question.
I don't get it. Isnt all milk to be refrigerated?
the post is highlighting the hypocrisy in refrigerating milk while also being against milk pasteurization, since both of those practices have been done for around a hundred years and serve to make milk last longer and be safer to drink.
Just about every dairy product (butter, cheese, whey, buttermilk) was made as a way to keep milk safe for consumption. Rejecting pasteurization, which is just slightly warming up milk is incredibly obtuse and reeks of deliberate ignorance
maybe RFK(wasnt he behind all this nonsense?) is a secret militant vegan who wants to discourage people from drinking animal milk by making it harmful to humans(/s just in case)
This feels like a straw man. I don't remember them making any arguments against using a refrigerator.
I mean fuck them, but fuck them on topic otherwise we are just huffing out own smug cloud and that doesn't convince anyone.
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A lot of continental Europeans drink UHT which only needs refrigerating once opened.
UHT is the opposite of raw milk.
Exactly
Pasteurized orange juice?
I meant ULTRA heat-treated.
Beyond pasteurized.
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Do you guys really drink milk? I don't think I've had a glass of milk since I was like 14.
My family used to drink milk for dinner. We probably went through ten liters of milk in a week. The top third of the fridge was always reserved for milk.
When i moved out i continued doing this for a while or eating cornflakes in milk, but eventually stopped because my adult body is not that fond of digesting milk. I eat crazy amounts of cheese though, but the well cured one that are low on lactose.
I have 4 kids between 16 and 6. I buy 6x 3L bottles of milk at a time and it barely lasts a week.
I will have milk with things like cookies or chocolate cake. And milk is mandatory for Oreos.
About 0,5L per day, yes
I like milk
It also goes into some of the food
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I think it's used in a lot of ways that isn't "drinking a glass of milk". I suspect most milk is poured over cereal. It's also used a lot in cooking, but insisting on raw milk to bake with seems especially weird.
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The only acceptable use for raw milk is cheese. Give me a raw milk camembert any day.
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