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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Monkey paw curls

They hate capitalism, but mistakenly blame everything else for its effects and think the solution is more capitalism.

[–] sleep_deprived@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Isn't that just the current state of affairs?

[–] Bademantel@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I know it's a meme but for the sake of discussion I want to say that capitalism is without emotion. It's also without moral. It has no intentions of consuming nature or harming us, it just does. Growing profits is the only goal. Everything else is essentially irrelevant. It's more like a virus than a thinking being with emotions.

[–] folaht@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I disagree. It's full of emotions.
Distrust, contempt, anger, fear...

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@Bademantel@lemmy.world is correct. Capitalism arose naturally, the consequences of it are not because anyone designed it in a lab, but as a force of historical movement. The superstructural elements arising from it are not the system itself, which forms the base the superstructure arises from.

[–] folaht@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The capitalists in power do not like the working class and capitalism arose from getting rid of fuedalism.
But I will agree on a semantic level that capitalism is not a group of people.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

The Capitalists in power have a relationship with the Working Class out of utility, personal feelings don't really change the predatory dynamic. Capitalists need workers in order to extract surplus value.

Capitalism arose naturally from feudalism, alongside industrialization. Capitalism arose as a stage in development.

[–] Bademantel@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Those are symptoms of a society in capitalism. Capitalism doesn't hate you. It doesn't acknowledge you except for you ability to create wealth.

[–] folaht@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago

Okay, on a semantic level I will agree with you that capatalism cannot hate since capitalism is not a group of people,
but if it is a set of ideas, then it doesn't have a goal either, nor is it a virus as it's not organic.