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    [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

    NvidiaGPU working

    what world do you live in? I have even newer driver than that and it's still buggy!

    [–] uairhahs@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

    Fuck Flakpaks! There I said it.

    [–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 126 points 1 week ago (5 children)
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    [–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 108 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (64 children)

    Tap for spoilerzcnsgnagmsgmafmsgmwtmsg

    [–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I really, REALLY wish the Affinity suite would work on Linux. They are the only ones even remotely comparable to Adobe.

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    [–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    I use gimp for pixel art for game textures and to make memes. It has tons of features that nobody knows about becuase they're fucked by horrendous UI. But theres never been anything I needed to to but couldnt after looking up a tutorial on the internet. Valid points against gimp but lets not pretend people used to photoshop arent also kind of stuck in their old workflow habits and unwilling to relearn new software UI.

    Theres photogimp but it hasn't been worked on in a while.

    Also also, most people who use gimp on linux probably did so on a stable distro like Mint installing with default package manager. This means their experience with gimp is from a terribly old outdated version. Flatpaks have some issues but being able to easily install the most current version of software like gimp or kdenlive is night and day difference.

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    [–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (16 children)

    Thanks to the likes of Proton, gaming on Linux is a hell of a lot better than it was ~5 years ago. You can actually do it now for the most part without to much fuss in my experience as long as you stick to Steam.

    But once you leave Steam or get something brand new made by an EA type and have to lean on third party implementations of Proton or raw Wine to get things working it gets a lot worse.

    [–] MouldyCat@feddit.uk 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    But once you leave Steam [...] it gets a lot worse

    Heroic Games Launcher is pretty great for games from GOG and Epic. You can run games with Proton just fine.

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    [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 56 points 1 week ago (9 children)

    "Nvidia GPU working"

    If the driver feels like it, lol.

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    [–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 51 points 1 week ago (34 children)

    If the average person can not use your OS, it is not ready. Period.

    For example:

    Windows - Open File Explorer > Add Network Drive > Find/plug it in > Enter creds > Bam. Ready to go and will automatically log you in at boot. Very nice, very intuitive UI.

    Linux - Open Dolphin (or whatever) > Network > Add Network Folder/Find it > Enter creds > Does not automatically mount the drive when booting the computer back up > Must go into fstab to get it to automount > Stop, because that is ridiculous

    In my own experience, I was able to get the hang of Windows with no one showing me how a computer ever worked, at the age of 10! Intuitive enough a child can do it.

    On Linux, you have to read manuals/documentation, ask random (mostly rude) people on the internet, or give up because why the fuck would I want to go and enter 5 commands just to have something as simple as auto mount a network share? Not intuitive, therefore not easy to learn as you go.

    I get it, Linux people like knowing how their computers operate, they like ensuring everything is working the way THEY want to, and that's awesome! What's not awesome is recommending Linux to the general populace and then getting upset at them for asking why they can't do something or why don't they just do these steps to do whatever it is they are having issues with. Then, you have a person who doesn't even know what a terminal is confused as hell because they were told Linux is so much better than Windows.

    Until we get a more intuitive (GUI focused) way of doing what I would consider normal computer tasks, it will not ever be ready. That's just the way I see it.

    [–] neatobuilds@lemmy.today 81 points 1 week ago (21 children)

    the average person doesnt know how to mount a drive on windows or even what that is or why you would want to, they just need to be able to open a browser

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    [–] Darorad@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (11 children)

    Meanwhile my experience with automounting network drives with dolphin is

    Open Dolphin > Add Network Folder > Enter creds > Check automount box > done

    I haven't had to use the terminal for anything in years. There's some things I do in the terminal, but that's because I like it better, not because there isn't an intuitive way to do it.

    The reason guides tell people to use the terminal is because it's the same across DEs, not because there aren't DEs that make it more intuitive.

    Would I throw a random non techy friend on Linux? No, because it's not what they're used to. If they had no computer experience at all though I absolutely would.

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    [–] Zink@programming.dev 36 points 1 week ago (7 children)

    The average person does not mount network drives themselves.

    I would hazard a guess that for the truly average user, booting to a desktop with Firefox and LibreOffice installed is like 90% of what they need.

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    [–] schibutzu@lemm.ee 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I once wanted to change my mouse scrolling direction on Windows. In KDE it's a toggle in the mouse settings and on Windows it's some dubious registry editing (apparently). I think there are about as many things that are easier on Linux than on Windows as there are things that are easier on Windows than on Linux (assuming you're using a modern distribution with a beginner-friendly, sensible configuration).

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    [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (20 children)

    I mean, I was able to figure out how MS-DOS worked as a child just be flailing on the keyboard and reading the errors. It was "easy" because now I know it while Macintoshes may as well have been alien technology. A "mouse"?, moving windows?, you have to find programs and click on them instead of just typing?

    You're just used to Windows annoyances and not used to Linux annoyances, that's all.

    For example:

    Installing and updating a program on Windows is a horror show compared to using a package manager. It expects average users to find, download and run executable files from the Internet and conditions them to approve elevation for anything that asks.

    If Windows breaks, how do you troubleshoot it? Maybe Google knows, maybe rebooting fixes it, if not then possibly re-installing the entire OS. It's so bad that if you work with Windows clients you probably already have an image of a Windows install because troubleshooting is so much of a pain it's easier to just completely re-image the machine.

    Don't even get me started on how often Microsoft changes the layout of administration tools and system menus or their tendency to change the name of various system components for no logical reason.

    I don't think Linux is for everyone, but only because most everyone already has years of Windows experience and forgets all of the frustration and learning.

    If you used Linux for just as long as you've used Windows, then editing fstab would seem as trivial a task as pinning an item to the ~~start bar~~ taskbar, or ~~launching a program~~ starting an app from the ~~system tray~~ ~~notification area~~ system tray.

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    [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I didn’t think Linux had enough ads and wasn’t commercialized enough but then I tried Ubuntu.

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    [–] bluelander@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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    [–] HeckGazer@programming.dev 39 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    It certainly sounds like wayland is just about ripe. Any DE recommendations for a lifelong XFCE enjoyer like myself?

    [–] Hubi@feddit.org 64 points 1 week ago (10 children)

    KDE. It's working very well with Wayland. I've been using both on my daily driver for a year now and it's come a long way since then. It was still a bit rough in the beginning but now I can't see myself going back. It's pretty polished.

    [–] dabaldeagul@feddit.nl 25 points 1 week ago

    I've been using KDE Plasma with Wayland for a couple of months and it's been really good. The apps that don't support it properly open as an X11 window inside Wayland, which is perfectly fine. I'm not switching back to X11 either haha

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    [–] lilith267@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Xfce next major release will have Wayland support so no need to even change!

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    [–] lorty@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 week ago

    This isn't really how this format works but ok

    [–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

    Unless computer companies include Linux with their PC's, it will never get general adoption.

    No average user will follow instructions on how to boot Linux distro installer, especially when there are multiple steps needed to do so, such as on UEFI systems.

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    [–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

    TBH, so many people I know don't even know how to use Windows. Or even a browser. iOS or maybe Android is their PC, all through apps and feeds.

    Like, if I explained laptop BIOS access for installing Linux, I’d lose them before I even started.

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    [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 week ago (16 children)

    Have you guys decided which distro is the ready one?

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    [–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (9 children)

    Don't worry guys, we'll never have VR

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    [–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Can you use HDR in KDE? Only desktop Can you use HDR in game? Only with gamescope with dozen flags Can you use native wayland in proton? No unless you go through complex hoops.

    "Finished" isn't worth a jack shit if it doesn't work out of the box

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