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    Let the apologists have a field day in the comments.

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    [–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Since suggestions in the comments are just words of apologists, do you have a proposal for a solution, or is this just a rant post?

    All I’m getting right now is a vague idea of some Master GUI that resembles the cockpit of a commercial jet that no “average user” is ever going to try and decipher, anyway.

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    [–] __nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    Desktop Environments are decoupled from the underlying system. It makes switching DEs very easy but integration sucks.

    I needed to flush dns on my Ubuntu machine. I googled it found a command for an older version. But of course the underlying stuff changed since then and that command doesn't exist anymore.

    The command to flush dns on Windows has been the same for decades. On Linux half the stuff I learn is going to be obsolete in a couple of years and that knowledge can't be carried over to other Distros because they do it differently.

    I also had to manually build and install a driver for a very common realtek wifi chipset that is not even new.

    [–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 week ago

    This is the reason I sometimes come back to the BSDs, they just feel more coherent as a whole.

    [–] wolo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

    NixOS has the potential to do really well here. The Nix language has a rich enough type system to generate GUI forms for every field, and there are several projects being worked on that allow editing NixOS options from a GUI. They're still very janky, but it's definitely possible to get to a point where a layperson could operate them without breaking their system.

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    [–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

    All the settings changes should be config files. GUI is dumb Pooh.

    [–] mvirts@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

    Hey man, it's no surprise the gui people are good at making the gui settings in the gui :P

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