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[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago

incredible. even if out of date in some ways, geographic data dumps of ownership records like this can be analyzed to find incredible stories that owners are not interested in ever seeing light.

i used to work in a national sacrifice zone with probably the most purposely underdeveloped civic infrastructure i've ever seen, and there has been this hush-hush conversation among the give-a-fuck population about this past attempt to build a publicly accessible record of property ownership for the last 50+ years, because all the signs point to nobody local owning much of anything despite this enduring myth that the place is so backwards and broke because the people there are backwards and like it that way.

digression: nevermind that 100 years ago the people of that place came together to form one of the largest armed, and militant insurrections against capitalist exploitation and was brutally put down with chemical weapons and explosives dropped from the very first planes purchased by the US military. then everything was absolutely memory holed and a narrative was crafted that the people of that place were backwards and crazy. yee haw.

anyway, the story about the property records goes that some community group got some obscure federal support back in like the 1970s to put a comprehensive record of the region together as part of a plan to track where federal development dollars were actually going (because despite billions going in, seems like none of them ever stayed), and when some capital formations on the east coast found out they shut everything down. the legend says that it's still out there somewhere, as a hardcopy, and somebody's kid will find it in an attic and eventually dump it online.

[–] KoboldKomrade@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Possibly a hot take, but tools like this should only list people who

  1. Own more then 2 properties or over 20 acres
  2. Rent any number of properties (Probably a 3 but I can't think of a good third)

When I lived in Florida, I could google my name and get my address, if I'm registered, what party I am if I am, one even had my damn number. (Fairly generic first name, somewhat unique/unusual Euro last name). Its really sucks that "Owning your family's house" doxxes you publicly and instantly.

Like all this data was publicly available before the internet. But you either had to physically go to the local courthouse to see it, or pay for it. Now its for free and (effectively) anonymously accessible.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

Yeah GIS is pretty wild. I used it when I first bought my property. Mostly just to do my own property survey since I live in this weird formerly industrial/agricultural zone that was cut into weird chunks.

But it has a lot of information , depending on locality. Found out a neighbors abandoned structure has asbestos and was in tax delinquency. Few I've talked to in person knew they existed, since they are pretty confusing to use unless you are really into mapping.

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

Shows my mom owning the house we live in, kinda neat

[–] dannoffs@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

It's definetly out of date, my condo still shows the previous owner.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

linked in the article is another on California's biggest seven landowners by acreage

https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2023/top-california-landowners-map/

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

Do this but for other states please

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

The website property radar is a really useful tool for this purpose.