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Hey, community :)

I run a website that showcases the best open-source companies. Recently, I've added a new feature that filters self-hosted tools and presents them in a searchable format. Although there are other options available, like Awesome-Selfhosted, I found it difficult to find what I needed there, so I decided to display the information in a more digestible format.

You can check out the list here: https://openalternative.co/self-hosted

Let me know if there’s anything else I should add to the list.

Thanks!

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[–] piotrkulpinski@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

UPDATE: I've added advanced search filters directly on the listing, so you can now filter self-hosted tools by their alternative, category, tech stack used and licence they're released on 🔥

[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Love the list, but scrolling through, the one liners don't mean much for a lot of these.

The descriptions are just too short and vague to even understand what a lot of them actually do.

[–] piotrkulpinski@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Noted! I have longer descriptions in the db, but didn't want to bloat the listings. Will try with a longer description soon.

[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a tough balance, you don't want a whole page for each one. Maybe if there was a clear list of tags so it's easier to understand even what category they're talking about?

For example:
Penpot
Design freedom meets open-source collaboration

I really don't know what this product category even is. Is it for web layout? Is it a drawing program? Is it for CAD?

[–] piotrkulpinski@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Fair point. I'll try to add more context to the listings. Thanks!

[–] hydration9806@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe consider collapsible dropdowns or similar for the extra information

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 4 points 1 week ago

This is the solution. That way i can decide if i want to read more about one of them and then sinply open the dropdown.

[–] Caboose12000@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

personally I love it when websites solve this problem with hover hints, theres something satisfying about seeing a paragraph of text on hover that just answers all my questions. not sure how that'd work for people viewing on mobile though

[–] Shimitar@feddit.it 3 points 1 week ago

No please, hover links are just useless to tablet and mobile users, anybody without a mouse actually!

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

A "more" button after the one liner would be very nice. Or make the one-liner a link that gives a longer description.

Thanks for the work. I've bookmarked it!

[–] piotrkulpinski@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Added longer description and major alternative when you hover over the cards. Hope that'll make it easier to browse.

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[–] Jean_Mich_Much@jlai.lu 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm tired of Cloudflare ... 😔

[–] mac@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah I havent been able to load the cf verification on my android for like over a week now lol

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[–] Arehandoro@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 week ago
[–] reinar@distress.digital 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Appreciate the effort, but without categories it's not going to sail too far.
Right now it's just a long list of everything that it's out there, awesome-selfhosted is much more usable for looking up what you need.

Also, did you join any kind of affiliate programs/partnerships for these "10% off" green boxes? If so, would be great to disclose it. Nothing bad with getting some cash, but community will just appreciate the honesty.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] reinar@distress.digital 12 points 1 week ago

I stand corrected, thank you!

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[–] paequ2@lemmy.today 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

One thing I would like to see is a way to distinguish which apps do Real™ Open Source vs fakie open source. For example, I see Joplin on there saying "Your secure, open-source note-taking companion". I guess that's technically true at this point in time, but they also force contributors to sign a CLA so they have the option to pull the rug later on. (Something which does happen.)

They even say so explicitly:

This is necessary so that if we ever want to change the license again we are able to do so

https://joplinapp.org/news/20221221-agpl/#what-does-it-change-for-developers

And fine, if they want to do that it's up to them. I'd just like a quick way to tell the difference between open source 😒 and Open Source 😄.

simpsons

[–] egerlach@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Free Software Foundation requires "CLAs" as well. I have no fear that they're going to rug-pull. I don't think we can use that as the indicator. IMO, it's even a good idea to have a CLA so that's no conflict that the project owns the code.

The warning for me is if the project is run by a company, especially a VC-backed company. Joplin isn't, so I would be comfortable using it (although I don't).

[–] paequ2@lemmy.today 1 points 6 days ago

Interesting! I didn't realize this! https://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-assign.en.html

only the copyright holder or someone having assignment of the copyright can enforce the license. If there are multiple authors of a copyrighted work, successful enforcement depends on having the cooperation of all authors.

So it seems like the FSF does this in order to be able to enforce GPL. Buuut, these guys really gotta be the exception. I feel like the probability of the FSF selling out and going full corporate evil is pretty low...

a good idea to have a CLA so that’s no conflict that the project owns the code.

That's exactly the problem though. The project owning the code, instead of the contributors owning the code.

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[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Never heard of 99% in that list.

Also, Gitea should not be there. It is a corporate -owned open core project that was hostilely taken away from the community.

[–] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

While I don't disagree with your sentiment, it seems like this list is just "self hosted open source alternatives". Even if there are better options, Gitea still falls under that definition, no?

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

It falls under self hosted, at least. If it is still truly open source is highly debatable.

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[–] nottelling@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

In addition to other suggestions, the cards need to show what they're alternative to without clicking.

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[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

I wish more software wasn’t “hosted” these days.

I miss app ass apps.

Don’t mind me. I’m just feeling old.

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[–] Bluefruit@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I love this idea, because I often have questions like this as I transition away from proprietary software to open source alternatives

I think listing what software equivalents it might replace listed in the card.

I do see its listed when you click on the info card in the main list, but having it be visible before that might be helpful.

I know a lot of people won't like the little ad cards when you do click on a software to review its page, but I think the way you implementted it is good. Its not intrusive and clearly states its an ad.

Edit: removed bit about categories.

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[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's really surprising how fast people forget about the shady shit rustdesk has done.

[–] derek@infosec.pub 4 points 1 week ago

Near as I understand it: years ago some dumb engineering decisions were made, acknowledged, and corrected. Is there some recent scandal I'm out of the loop on?

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[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I think it would be important to include current version information on the cards. For example, Pocketbase is still very much in beta and they make breaking changes pretty frequently.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why does it list Gitea instead of Forgejo?

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[–] Die4Ever@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't see any Fediverse platforms on there, how would you feel about adding them? Seems like they'd fit.

https://openalternative.co/categories/social-media

Could add Lemmy, Mastodon, MBin, PieFed, PixelFed, Loops, PeerTube, NodeBB...

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Maybe you wanna collaborate with selfh.st to complete each others list?

Edit: Looked at the list. Good job on the design and content. Bookmarked it :)

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[–] JPAKx4@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

Can you change the color of the ad badge? I'm fine with ads, but it blends in too well :/

[–] piotrkulpinski@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

So sorry for all the errors! I got crazy traffic to the website and the database is not holding on as it should. Will have to upgrade the server very soon🫡

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Can you add Nephele to the list? It’s not a full fledged replacement for cloud storage, but with something like OwlFiles on your phone, it’s close. And it’s very useful.

https://hub.docker.com/r/sciactive/nephele

Also, I wrote it. :)

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