UPDATE: I've added advanced search filters directly on the listing, so you can now filter self-hosted tools by their alternative, category, tech stack used and licence they're released on 🔥
Selfhosted
A place to share alternatives to popular online services that can be self-hosted without giving up privacy or locking you into a service you don't control.
Rules:
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Be civil: we're here to support and learn from one another. Insults won't be tolerated. Flame wars are frowned upon.
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Posts have to be centered around self-hosting. There are other communities for discussing hardware or home computing. If it's not obvious why your post topic revolves around selfhosting, please include details to make it clear.
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Don't duplicate the full text of your blog or github here. Just post the link for folks to click.
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Resources:
- selfh.st Newsletter and index of selfhosted software and apps
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- Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting
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Love the list, but scrolling through, the one liners don't mean much for a lot of these.
The descriptions are just too short and vague to even understand what a lot of them actually do.
Noted! I have longer descriptions in the db, but didn't want to bloat the listings. Will try with a longer description soon.
It's a tough balance, you don't want a whole page for each one. Maybe if there was a clear list of tags so it's easier to understand even what category they're talking about?
For example:
Penpot
Design freedom meets open-source collaboration
I really don't know what this product category even is. Is it for web layout? Is it a drawing program? Is it for CAD?
Fair point. I'll try to add more context to the listings. Thanks!
Maybe consider collapsible dropdowns or similar for the extra information
This is the solution. That way i can decide if i want to read more about one of them and then sinply open the dropdown.
personally I love it when websites solve this problem with hover hints, theres something satisfying about seeing a paragraph of text on hover that just answers all my questions. not sure how that'd work for people viewing on mobile though
No please, hover links are just useless to tablet and mobile users, anybody without a mouse actually!
A "more" button after the one liner would be very nice. Or make the one-liner a link that gives a longer description.
Thanks for the work. I've bookmarked it!
Added longer description and major alternative when you hover over the cards. Hope that'll make it easier to browse.
I'm tired of Cloudflare ... 😔
Yeah I havent been able to load the cf verification on my android for like over a week now lol
Appreciate the effort, but without categories it's not going to sail too far.
Right now it's just a long list of everything that it's out there, awesome-selfhosted is much more usable for looking up what you need.
Also, did you join any kind of affiliate programs/partnerships for these "10% off" green boxes? If so, would be great to disclose it. Nothing bad with getting some cash, but community will just appreciate the honesty.
They do have categories, via the menu at the top:
I stand corrected, thank you!
One thing I would like to see is a way to distinguish which apps do Real™ Open Source vs fakie open source. For example, I see Joplin on there saying "Your secure, open-source note-taking companion". I guess that's technically true at this point in time, but they also force contributors to sign a CLA so they have the option to pull the rug later on. (Something which does happen.)
They even say so explicitly:
This is necessary so that if we ever want to change the license again we are able to do so
— https://joplinapp.org/news/20221221-agpl/#what-does-it-change-for-developers
And fine, if they want to do that it's up to them. I'd just like a quick way to tell the difference between open source 😒 and Open Source 😄.
The Free Software Foundation requires "CLAs" as well. I have no fear that they're going to rug-pull. I don't think we can use that as the indicator. IMO, it's even a good idea to have a CLA so that's no conflict that the project owns the code.
The warning for me is if the project is run by a company, especially a VC-backed company. Joplin isn't, so I would be comfortable using it (although I don't).
Interesting! I didn't realize this! https://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-assign.en.html
only the copyright holder or someone having assignment of the copyright can enforce the license. If there are multiple authors of a copyrighted work, successful enforcement depends on having the cooperation of all authors.
So it seems like the FSF does this in order to be able to enforce GPL. Buuut, these guys really gotta be the exception. I feel like the probability of the FSF selling out and going full corporate evil is pretty low...
a good idea to have a CLA so that’s no conflict that the project owns the code.
That's exactly the problem though. The project owning the code, instead of the contributors owning the code.
Never heard of 99% in that list.
Also, Gitea should not be there. It is a corporate -owned open core project that was hostilely taken away from the community.
While I don't disagree with your sentiment, it seems like this list is just "self hosted open source alternatives". Even if there are better options, Gitea still falls under that definition, no?
It falls under self hosted, at least. If it is still truly open source is highly debatable.
In addition to other suggestions, the cards need to show what they're alternative to without clicking.
I wish more software wasn’t “hosted” these days.
I miss app ass apps.
Don’t mind me. I’m just feeling old.
I love this idea, because I often have questions like this as I transition away from proprietary software to open source alternatives
I think listing what software equivalents it might replace listed in the card.
I do see its listed when you click on the info card in the main list, but having it be visible before that might be helpful.
I know a lot of people won't like the little ad cards when you do click on a software to review its page, but I think the way you implementted it is good. Its not intrusive and clearly states its an ad.
Edit: removed bit about categories.
It's really surprising how fast people forget about the shady shit rustdesk has done.
Near as I understand it: years ago some dumb engineering decisions were made, acknowledged, and corrected. Is there some recent scandal I'm out of the loop on?
I think it would be important to include current version information on the cards. For example, Pocketbase is still very much in beta and they make breaking changes pretty frequently.
I don't see any Fediverse platforms on there, how would you feel about adding them? Seems like they'd fit.
https://openalternative.co/categories/social-media
Could add Lemmy, Mastodon, MBin, PieFed, PixelFed, Loops, PeerTube, NodeBB...
Maybe you wanna collaborate with selfh.st to complete each others list?
Edit: Looked at the list. Good job on the design and content. Bookmarked it :)
Can you change the color of the ad badge? I'm fine with ads, but it blends in too well :/
So sorry for all the errors! I got crazy traffic to the website and the database is not holding on as it should. Will have to upgrade the server very soon🫡
Can you add Nephele to the list? It’s not a full fledged replacement for cloud storage, but with something like OwlFiles on your phone, it’s close. And it’s very useful.
https://hub.docker.com/r/sciactive/nephele
Also, I wrote it. :)