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[–] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 101 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Trump said he had called Ulbricht’s mother to tell her he would pardon her son “in honor of her and the Libertarian Movement, which supported me so strongly”.

Wildy transactional.

So... does "full and unconditional" mean he's also pardoned for the murders-for-hire? Or just for being a drug lord and America's Next Top Website Boy?

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 10 points 9 hours ago

He was never convicted on murders for hire, charges were dropped

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 39 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I'm actually kind of impressed he kept his word. That's unexpected

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 14 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

His part is signing a piece of paper with a Sharpie that one of his handlers puts in front of him. That phone call had to be horrible, Trump trying to explain to a mom he is setting her son that he knows nothing about, free because he once said he would to a large group of people he wants to grift.

Because 0% he knows the guy's name, who he was, or why he was in prison.

Edit - autocorrect =(

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, I'm just going to go with the most obvious grift. Ulbricht is going to go right back to operating a crypto street pharmacy. Hell, he'll do it on the open web now. He'll call it "The New Silk Road" or similar.

And then there's an agreement for the feds to not go after them. In exchange, Ulbricht uses a good portion of his earnings to become the largest single investor in Trumpcoin ever. If asked, the feds can either ignore the question or hide behind some fig leaf excuse they come up with.

It's not like Trump didn't run blatant undeniable cons in the last administration.

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[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 29 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 38 points 14 hours ago

Yeah, it's insane that he's just openly being like, "I promise to use the powers of my office to solely benefit myself," and the Supreme Court's just like, "Get it, grrrrrl"

Although, to be fair, it did also benefit a guy who tried to murder five people.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 20 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

Could someone explain like to an non American why the president gets to pardon people at all?

If someone committed a crime they're guilty, if there's new evidence that they're not guilty then that's what appeals are for.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (4 children)

My best understanding is that it was a historic right of kings, governors, etc. The idea was to show mercy to those who may have been convicted wrongly, or to people convicted of laws that have been overturned.

Trump is abusing it in ways never done before to payback political supporters.

TBF Biden abused it as well in pardoning his son.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Sounds like a rule that very much should have been left in the 17th century

[–] owl@infosec.pub 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Wasn't there a situation where he did not pardon his son?

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Same situation, he just waited until later in his presidency

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[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 7 points 10 hours ago

Just FYI this is not just an American thing. In Italy for example the President of the republic can cancel or amend sentences too, and it does happen relatively often, although not in the same partisan way as in the US (but that's also because the president in Italy is a neutral and representative position).

Some example from few years ago when the president graced 33 people (each with a specific articulated motivation) https://www.ilpost.it/2021/12/10/mattarella-grazia-sette-persone-sebastian-oberleteir-heinrich/ (in Italian, but you can translate if you wish).

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[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 52 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Wow, holy fuck, I never thought it'd happen. Even a broken clock is right twice a day I guess.

This dude is about to have a very lucrative career.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

You're saying it's the right move to release a man convicted of (I believe) several counts of attempted murder?

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[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 60 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Tough on drugs... For people who aren't white

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 8 points 11 hours ago

Someone should really convince him to legalise all drugs to stick it to the cartels.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 15 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Don't know or care about this guy but all drugs should be legal.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 7 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Then you should probably care about him. He gave people around the world access to medicine that was illegal

[–] Glasgow@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Silk Road wasn’t the first darknet market ya know. I helped launch the first couple that were .onion prior to Ross, but the movement has been about since the 90s at least and would’ve happened without any of us. We were working on a decentralised version that would've been unstoppable but people moved on and got other priorities when SR took all the media attention and spotlight. I'm guessing it'll emerge out crypto soon now the tech has caught up with the theory.

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 26 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] MunkysUnkEnz0@lemmy.world 14 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

Probably made a deal and wants all his Bitcoin. Smart kid, you know it's hidden somewhere. Thank God he's out there double life without parole. It's inhumane.

Not to mention that undercover basically set him up to look bad.

[–] owl@infosec.pub 4 points 10 hours ago

How was he set up to look bad?

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

People can watch his wallets right? And they suspect/know what ones they are? And this is something people are hotly following now?

I should look this up. It’s fascinating if we can just watch it happen, on the chain.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Can't watch Monero. Which is what he should have been using instead of Bitcoin.

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[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 28 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Because of bitcoin I'm sure.

[–] MunkysUnkEnz0@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

Yeah, you know the kids smart enough to have some hidden like thousands of them or something crazy and made a deal.

It's not out of the kindness of his heart.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone else remember the panic when you logged in and saw the notice that the site was seized by the feds?

I mean, certainly not something I experienced but I’m sure if I had it would’ve been terrifying to think the feds could find your info

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

All sellers had pgp keys published, everyone just used these and feds could not see shit.

Not like the later honeypots where the market published fake pgp keys on sellers' profiles and MITMed the communications.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

the market published fake pgp keys on sellers’ profiles and MITMed the communications.

Daaaaamn

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (5 children)

Imagine having millions of dollars worth of bitcoin in 2013 and then being imprisoned until 2024.

I hope he made a good backup of at least a few thousand coins.

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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago
[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

Of course he would, that's who Mike Lindell wants to get his dope from!

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago
[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 0 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

Why though?

I mean, who is looking at this and calling it an injustice?

Side note: does he get his bitcoin wallet back?

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

He got more time than actual gang bangers without committing any violent crime. His sentence was way longer than it should have been.

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 3 points 11 hours ago

The US already auctioned off his coins. But its possible that maybe he had some more on a backup somewhere

[–] CitricBase@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Side note: does he get his bitcoin wallet back?

Dude was deep into Bitcoin back when it was less than a dollar. If he diversified and stashed just a fraction of his holdings, he might now be one of the richest people on the planet.

Who says crime doesn't pay? :/

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 11 hours ago

To buy votes

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