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edit: As I'm seeing a lot of worry about the impact this will/could have on the community, please be assured we have the same mod team, and will be holding the community to the same standards. the same things that were always allowed will continue to be allowed and the same things that got things removed before will continue to get things removed before. Lemmy.world admins have agreed to allow us to run our community on our terms.
It is my pleasure to announce that effective immediately, we are transferring our community to Lemmy.world! This has been a few months in the making, so my entire mod team is already on board.
FAQ:
Why?
That's a complicated question with a long answer! The primary difference is moderatorial and ideologial differences between my team and Ada's excellent team of admins. We are on good terms with Ada and her team, and have gotten her consent to do this. In addition to this, we have had ongoing issues with federation and moderation that has caused a subpar experience for many people on other instances.
How does this work?
Currently, as there is not an easy way to transfer an entire community (trust me, we checked), we are locking the community as mod-only, and moving our focus to the 196 on lemmy.world. For you guys, functionally nothing has changed.
What about the posts?
Well, we tried to transfer them, but there was no real way to do so without absolutely destroying lemmy.world's federation. For this reason, we are simply archiving this community as mod-only. Everything is staying up, you just won't be able to post new content. Comments are still enabled, so we will continue to check our modlogs for some time after the transfer has settled.
As for the posts on lemmy.world's 196, we're leaving those up too. From this point onwards, all posts made to that community are beholden to the rules you are all used to, but anything pre-existing is getting grandfathered in.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE PUT THEM IN THE COMMENTS OF THIS POST, AND I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THEM.
Once again, here's the link to our new apartment of awesome. (universal: !196@lemmy.world)

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[–] seawoowaes@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hey so im just a lurker but im really worried about this move:

We all know Meta just allowed all sorts of vile anti lgbt posting on their platform so how do we know .world isn't going that way?

You said you have a line to the top admin, is that Ruud who wants to federate with Threads, a Meta product that will allow transphobia against community members?

"Communities should not be overly moderated in order to enforce a specific narrative. Respectful disagreement should be allowed in a smaller proportion to the established narrative" - LW admins

Especially concerning since they are forcing communities to allow dissent, just like Meta, so TERFs can just roll up in this community and you have to allow them?

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[–] poplargrove@lemmy.world 64 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I want to add my voice to the others asking for tranfering to a new mod team. You don't have to kill the community, let people who want it on blahaj.zone keep using it. The worst that can happen is the quality of posts being lower.

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[–] danakongur@lemmy.spronkus.xyz 27 points 1 day ago

very sad. i can barely use lemmy.world communities as they take weirdly long to federate with my tiny instance. for example, from my instance i can only see the pinned posts on the new 196, and it has been pending subscription since yesterday.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 72 points 1 day ago

This move is going to make the community a lot less welcoming to queer folk, by virtue of being on .world alone. I don't know what rift between Ada and you let to that decision, but I think it's a big mistake. It feels especially bad for us members of this community not being involved in the decision making process at all, all the more if this has truly been "months in the making".

With that said: I strongly implore you to not lock down the community, and instead let a new mod team take over. Not having centralized decisions and power tripping mods is one of the big hopes I had for the fediverse, and this... feels really bad. It's not a bad thing to have several similar communities on different instances! Please don't destroy this one over personal grievances

Disappointing

[–] regdog@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.

Rule: You must post before you leave.

OK, we saw your post. You can leave now.

[–] Lux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 123 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We joined this community because its on blahaj.zone.

We're not moving

[–] Lumu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 61 points 1 day ago

Seriously. Anyone who thinks this is a good idea should leave the community, so ultimately this may be a good thing, so long as this community is kept here and passed to other people.

[–] xuxxun@beehaw.org 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sad. Pretty sure beehaw is defederated from world.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 25 points 1 day ago

with many communities creating their own 196es.

Wow that's terrible, can anyone link some of those 196's so I can block them?

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 61 points 1 day ago

How about no?

[–] Sas@beehaw.org 42 points 1 day ago

Please leave the community to someone else. We don't federate world and I like this community and so far Ada seems to be a good admin. You can still make 196 on world without destroying this one.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 45 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Time to make /196part two on Blahaj I guess.

[–] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

or we could get new moderators to ask for control of this comm

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 18 points 1 day ago

Even better.

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[–] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 142 points 1 day ago
[–] GroupNebula563@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As someone whose home instance is LW, this is not a good idea. Like, at all. I suggest at least hosting some kind of poll, chances are if people disagree they'll just make a second community on this instance or another one regardless.

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[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 61 points 1 day ago (5 children)

OK, I think I see where you're coming from. But lemmy.world already has several meme, shitpost, and microblog repost communities. Why does lemmy.world need c/196? Up til now the fact that it was on blahaj.zone was what made it stand out.

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[–] PugEnjoyer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 87 points 1 day ago (8 children)

A move that has been months in the making but only now is getting announced? Has it been announced previously and I missed it or something? I get the motivation for the move, but this feels like the kind of decision that the users of the 196 should have gotten more of a chance to at least give feedback on what other instance 196 should be migrating to.

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[–] puppycat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 64 points 1 day ago

:(

.world is already way too centralized, and way less friendly. downhill we go I guess.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 78 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I agree with most others that this is a huge mistake, if only for moving to .world. Another larger community being on that instance sounds like a bad idea for the lemmy ecosystem, even if you wanted to move from blahaj.zone. I will continue to post and browse on 196, but if I start to feel unwelcome there, I will make it known.

The problem is that you're creating more work for yourself, even if you're as on top of moderation as you were here. If you get the additional reach that you're hoping for, you'll have to work much quicker at removing shit content than you did here. Now that 196 isn't on the openly queer instance, more bigots will feel like they can interact. This could lead to the community becoming less accepting in the long run, as queer people feel less safe and welcomed.

I have thick skin and often run towards conflicts other people won't, but I know that many users here aren't like me. If I start to feel it weighing on me, be confident that things have gone too far for most people on this instance.

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[–] Toes@ani.social 41 points 1 day ago

Don't do it, seriously I hope you're joking.

[–] luciole@beehaw.org 63 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What rotten news.

If you want to move to some big reddit-like instance, then you move you and let the ones that what to meme in a safe space do it. As you've noticed, communities can't be moved to other instances. I would ask you to kindly take the hint.

imho you should simply start your far reaching 196 elsewhere and leave this one to be modded by someone else. Not everybody is fond of playing in traffic.

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