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President-elect Trump launched his own cryptocurrency overnight and swiftly appeared to make more than $25 billion on paper for himself and his companies. 

Why it matters: The stunning launch of $TRUMP caught the entire industry off-guard, and speaks to both his personal influence and the ascendancy of cryptocurrency in his administration.

  • It also speaks to the nature of the crypto industry that someone could have $25 billion worth of something that literally did not exist 24 hours previously.
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[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 77 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Trump launches ~~meme coin~~ money laundering scheme, apparently ~~makes~~ launders more than $25 billion overnight

Ftfy

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago

Bingo, the CCP can't bribe Trump directly but they can buy a ton of crypto.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 85 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is so fucking stupid. Everything. I feel like we're living in a fucking clown show.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

Think of it this way I can't bribe Trump but if I bought 20% of this shitcoin I might be able to get his ear.

[–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

The amazing real circus

[–] BothsidesistFraud@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can't decide if I'm annoyed that this poorly-disguised influence scheme will go unpunished, or if thrilled that many very deserving people will be separated from their money.

[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Why would you be happy about their money going to even less deserving people?...

[–] BothsidesistFraud@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

if you felicificly calculate it it works out

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 15 points 19 hours ago

Fools always find their kind

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 17 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

All the wrong people got money.

QE was a method of upward distribution of wealth.

[–] threeganzi@sh.itjust.works 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Nfamwap@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago

Quantative Easing

[–] RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works 96 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Crypto market cap does not equate the equivalent in dollars. When you create a new cryptocoin you can freely adjust the coin's parameters such as the amount of available coins. So let's say you "print" 1000 coins and sell one at $50. You now have a market cap of $50000.

It's like pulling a rabbit out of a hat, with the notable distinction that the rabbit isn't real. What makes it real is if enough suckers actually buy the coins with real dollars.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

In other words, in about a week we'll want to start shorting this asset. Trump will have absolutely no hesitation to hyperinflate it just printing more trump coins. This man doesn't do subtle or half measures, he goes big, and this is going to fail in a big way.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wish more people understood this. Especially in the press, since its their job to educate everyone else.

Trading volume is what matters, not trading price. It's only worth $25 billion if you can turn $25 billion of it into cash.

Unfortunately since banks still haven't take wised up to this, and the wildcat crypto banks really haven't, its likely still possible to pump a meme coin and then take out loans against the purported asset value. The bank is then left trying to repossess a pile of worthless memecoin when you fail to repay the loan.

[–] RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I'd like to add that trade volume is only a slightly better indicator, because wash trading is very easy in crypto. Wash trading happens when the coin's owner and/or an accomplice buy and sell coins back and forth among themselves. It's easy to do if you have control over a huge amount of coins, because you printed them yourself at the low low price of $0. This has two effects: the trade volume grows, which makes it look like there is public interest in the coin, and you can pump up the price at the same time.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Very true.

I suppose I should have said "Fiat dollar trading volumes" although that's an oversimplification. The question you're really trying to answer is "How much actual demand is there for this invented commodity?"

The answer is, inevitably, not nearly enough. When 80% of the available supply of something is locked up in a vault somewhere, there's absolutely no way that 80% could be liquidated without crashing whatever market exists.

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[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 56 points 1 day ago

Holy fuck, the grift is so blatant that I'm almost beginning to respect it.

[–] pineapple_pizza@lemmy.dexlit.xyz 11 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

While I agree with the sentiment here, the market cap of the coin is currently at 7.6B according to https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/official-trump/

Anyone know why there's such a big discrepancy here? Maybe I'm misread?

[–] FleetingTit@feddit.org 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Circulating vs total supply?

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 4 points 18 hours ago

That's how they got the number but it's a big mistake to use total supply. Also it's not because the market cap is 12G that Trump received 12G. It's probably much much lower. He must have made only 50 to 100M in fees, if any. And the price he sold the coins at was much much lower than today

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[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

America for sale. You hear that Republicans? You just got sold out.

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

I doubt they can hear much of anything with their heads lodged that far up Trump's ascending colon.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 99 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Please someone explain how this is in any way legal. This is fucking absurd. The amount of hatred I have for every racist imbecile that supported this rapist fascist felon is too much for me to bear. The logical thing to do would be to just ignore everything because my mental well-being is more important, but this seems like some historic occurrence that should be stopped by any means necessary.

[–] 5oap10116@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There's no rule saying a dog can't play basketball

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

Do not bring air bud into this

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Why should legality matter? What are laws? It's rules that the government put down for everyone to follow. And what happens if someone controls all aspects of the government?

Legality is meaningless in the face of fascism, because the fascist government will be making the laws. it's like asking why it wasn't illegal to do genocide in nazi Germany. Or asking why it wasn't enforced by law to hide jews from the nazis to protect them

Legality is not relevant. Legality is not morality or a foundation for ethics. Legality is just the will of the government, for better or for worse. It is not something that necessarily serves the people's beat interests

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

~~Repugnantcans~~ The party of misanthropic fascist vermin cheated the system to stack the highest court in the land with loyalists who now nearly unconditionally support anything Trump says/wants. It's legal because they literally put in writing that any/everything he does is.

Edit: you right

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[–] jaypatelani@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago

He might rename USA to Trumpistan 🤣

[–] graverubber@lemmy.ml 178 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I suppose that's more streamlined method of bribery than buying property in his towers or booking his hotels.

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[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 123 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They aren't buying cryptocurrency - they're buying influence. The cryptocurrency is just a front.

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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm sure that's the first payment of the bribes from Russia and Saudis. Untraceable and the plausible irrationality of buying memecoins deflects questions.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 74 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (43 children)

If you previously weren't convinced crypto is a scammers paradise, this should convince you.

EDIT: removed not nice comment.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Anything from Coffeezilla yet?

Edit: Yes

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Apparently" and "on paper" doing a lot of work there. Is it actually trading at that value?

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[–] einlander@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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