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[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 2 points 8 hours ago

Fascists are ok with genocide, how unexpected!

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Its cool how nothing matters anymore and nobody gives a shit to do good.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Not that nothing matters, just that the ICC doesn't matter.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago

A country should say that but then arrest him. Fuck him i hope he suffers for the tens of thousands he killed. I dont believe in the death penalty but this is more of a hitler case than a normal killer.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 days ago

Meloni on genocidal war-criminal: I sleep.

Meloni on gay parents and people who call her short: real shit?

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Meloni would break Italian law? Sounds like a vote of no confidence is necessary

[–] azolus@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago

An upside down situation really

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is it possible for Italy to be pursued legally for skirting it's obligations under the (checks notes) Rome Statute?

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The ICC is a joke and most nation states don't want to see justice for war crimes meted out to government leaders. Most citizens practically don't care. War crimes are for the most part permitted.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yes most of our laws are virtue signals that only apply to the poors.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

On the other hand, that's what I'd say as well if I wanted to have a chance of nabbing him.

Not that I think that this is what's going on here.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is ICC jurisdiction not baked into the laws of the countries?

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I am not sure if it is "baked into the laws" specifically, but Italy signed and the parliament has ratified the contracts defining the ICC, its mandate and the member states obligations, so Italy is legally obliged to execute any ICC arrest warrant and hand over the suspect criminals to the ICC.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

And is enforcing those warrants up to the executive or up to the police+courts? Because with domestic laws it's up to the latter right?

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

The police is part of the executive. The courts are part of the judiciary. I dont know if national courts need to issue anything. Maybe they need to confirm the extradition to the Hague.

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 8 points 2 days ago
[–] solo@slrpnk.net -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

There are historical ties between fascist Italy and Zionists.

Archived link from the Israeli outlet Haaretz, 2019:

When Jews Praised Mussolini and Supported Nazis: Meet Israel's First Fascists

Some worrying components of Hebrew fascism are still evident in Israel's right wing, 80 years on

Like many others in the mid-1920s, Itamar Ben-Avi, the son of Eliezer Ben Yehuda – the reviver of the Hebrew language and the editor of the newspaper Doar Hayom – expressed a liking and even admiration for Mussolini and his actions. Unlike other journalists at the time, he longed for a strong, assertive leader in the Yishuv, and found him in the person of Ze’ev Jabotinsky. Another such person – a novice commentator who began his political and journalistic career in socialist circles and at the newspaper of the left-wing Hapoel Hatza’ir organization, and who was by late 1920s writing a regular column for Doar Hayom, titled “From the Notebook of a Fascist” – was Abba Ahimeir. Together with an intellectual who was disappointed in socialist circles, a writer and poet named Uri Zvi Greenberg, and the physician and essayist Joshua Heschel Yevin, Ahimeir established a group of young people called Brit Habiryonim (The Zealots’ Alliance), whose aim was to get the country’s youth to see the light about nationalism.