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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 35 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Socialism works

From here

Examples from this post by /u/bayarea415, Stephen Gowans - Do publicly owned, planned economies work, Ian Goodrum - Socialism vs Capitalism and quality of life, and yogthos's USSR acheivements post about the USSR specifically:

When it is claimed that a system works, we should ask, who it works for. Capitalism benefits a tiny number of rapacious capitalists, to the detriment of the rest of us, while Socialism works for the masses.


Now let's take a look at what happens after the USSR collapsed, and what came with capitalist privatization:

For an overview of the soviet experiment, watch this brilliant talk by Micheal Parenti, or read his article, Left anticommunism, the unkindest cut.

Also read this great article by Stephen Gowans, Do publicly owned, planned economies work?. Audio on youtube

[–] Beldarofremulak@discuss.online 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Have you thought about a command economy? Centrally run by a Highmaster? Who will no doubt create the prestigious title "Fuel Survey Underlord of the Wilderness Planet at the end of the Noctolium Solar Chain".

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 hours ago

a relevant passage from This Soviet World by Anna Louise Strong

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml -4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Should I make one of these that has all the Auth left countries telling the free thinker that "this is the only way to communism"?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Except countries that have existing socialism aren't doing that. In fact, China very openly says that their system is a product of their history, culture, and material conditions. Unlike western libs, they're not trying to franchise and remodel other countries into their own image. Neither does Cuba or Vietnam last I checked.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This is also why the CPC names their system Socialism with Chinese Characteristics. They want a multi-polar world, where hundreds of different socialisms can bloom on their own without fear of intervention, and especially being attacked by the US:

"Socialism with [insert any country here] characteristics"

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Can you imagine a Cuba without the embargo?

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Would be pretty wonderful, they could be as far along as the PRC, but in the western hemisphere. The US could never tolerate the threat of a good example so close to its borders though of course.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 points 9 hours ago

They already have to deal with Cuban healthcare and doctors.

[–] mukt@lemmy.ml -3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

China is only looking for military solutions to expsnd their systen where it is not a product of history : Taiwan, Philippines, bits of India, entire Tibet ... scratch that. Tibet is already a product of Chinese "... history, culture, and material conditions."

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago