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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 14 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

As someone who dropped TikTok around 3 years ago, the next month or two are going to be very amusing.

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[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 100 points 19 hours ago (21 children)

Hybrid Regime with democratic features

[–] gnomesaiyan@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

And one naturally says the reason why we are in such a mess is not simply that we have wrong systems for doing things—whether they be technological, political, or religious—but we have the wrong people. The systems may be alright, but they are in the wrong hands, because we are all in various ways self-seeking, lacking in wisdom, lacking in courage, afraid of death, afraid of pain, unwilling really to cooperate with others, unwilling to be open to others.

—Alan Watts, Mind Over Mind

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 25 points 18 hours ago (14 children)

We were trailblazers for a time. Other than that, we were always kind of fucked as a democratic system.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Probably no nation ever should last for more than 100 years. That seems to be about the time it takes for things to go bad, even if they were good to start with.

And of course there are countries like modern Russia that should have lasted for about 5 years.

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[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 36 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (22 children)

Blah blah blah "we built our own great firewall and painted it red white and blue, and even banned the use of vpns to get to foreign sites which even China doesn't do. We're totally the good guys BTW."

Americans are so fucking stupid, oh my god.

@EDIT: So it turns out the RESTRICT Act, that I was thinking of, and which banned VPNs, was shot down. And the current and approved Tiktok ban law doesn't do that. So. My b. This one is on me. I stand by "Americans are so fucking stupid oh my god", though, because you're still cheering for loss of net liberty.

[–] kungen@feddit.nu 15 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

banned the use of vpns to get to foreign sites which even China doesn't do

What are you talking about? The GFC tries its absolute best to block VPNs and other circumvention methods.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 5 hours ago

I guess they're not banned, but they're blocking them.

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[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 22 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe bring back Vine or something.

[–] kworpy@lemm.ee 12 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

if Vine was still here (let alone brought back) it would become just as bad as TikTok. Social medias can have their golden age but they will inevitably turn into shit, vine was simply shut down before its golden age came to an end

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

I always thought Vine was so stupid and pointless, but I thought the same thing about Twitter and it sold for $44 billion dollars, so what do I know? I miss the old Internet when content was more than a blurb, and conversations were deep and meaningful.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Lol @ america being the only non-chinese country in the world

[–] De_Narm@lemmy.world 189 points 21 hours ago (12 children)

The last panel applies to every other social media, just replace the spying country.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 60 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

That last part is becoming less and less relevant .... someone is spying but it isn't for the benefit or under the control of a country. More and more, the spying is meant more for the purposes of commerce and finance, for money and control. For business interests which is what major governments mainly represent.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 48 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, only AMIERICAN companies can spy on our citizens and flood them with propaganda!

USA! USA! USA!

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[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 132 points 21 hours ago (9 children)
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[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 21 points 16 hours ago

They should force TikTok to be sold to the Taiwan government.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 24 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Ho hum. TikTok ain’t going anywhere.

It will be banned for a short while, long enough for Trump to enforce sale to Meta in exchange for their absolute hard turn top to bottom in everything they do to help spread misinformation and keep the plebs angry.

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[–] Shortstack@reddthat.com 64 points 21 hours ago (8 children)

Those are valid criticisms, but can equally be applied to all of the rest of our main social media platforms.

I’m not seeing a big difference here between TikTok and YouTube except that one is not able to be influenced or backdoored by the US government and the other is.

In essence the optics here look an awful lot like the US simply doesn’t like other nations mining their citizens data that they want for themselves, and having foreign control of the type of news being fed by their algorithm.

Just remember that before Snowden dropped a dime on the NSA, similar suspicions sounded pretty wacky too

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 39 points 20 hours ago (29 children)

"It's okay that the CCP pushes propaganda because billionaires do it too" - Tiktok defenders

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Lol, I don't give a shit about tik tok, I'm more worried about the First Amendment implications.

They could just declare Lemmy instances to be "foreign propaganda" and ban every instance they don't like.

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