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[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

As a SoCal city dweller, large scale fires were mostly a non issue as long as you live in urban areas. The response is always quick enough to prevent entire neighborhoods from getting rolled over, as the system is designed to handle surges by sharing resources. However, much like with hospitals dealing with outbreaks, there is usually an upper limit to how much they can do.

There has never been anything like this in modern history because this fire was a consequence of climate change. Excessive dryness and powerful winds created the wildfire equivalent of a flash flood, leaving firefighters little time to react. They were already fighting a war on the coast, but the storm created a blitzkrieg that descended onto densely populated areas before they could properly redeploy.

This is just speculation, but I suspect that death toll isn't in the hundreds or thousands because they prioritized evacuation over saving property. The areas hit were more urban than I ever thought possible, and it really could've been far worse given how quickly everything happened. The budget cuts didn't help, but this event was so extreme that I doubt a bigger budget could've saved many homes. In this case, the wrath of nature against ALL of humanity is most responsible,

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

...because this fire was a consequence of climate change.

You mean that thing that's happening, that we haven't been able to stop, caused this fire to be worse? Who could have predicted this?? (/s)

I live in the state of Victoria, Australia and we have, in fact, predicted this. We have a statewide fire service, we don't cut their funding, and we have strict building codes in fire-prone areas, as well as stricter overall no matter where in the state you build.

We've studied the impacts of climate change, and prepare for the worst.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

You can't say them werds here in 'Merica. You'll scare the executive's profits!

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 22 hours ago

There has never been anything like this in modern history

This shit is happening every year now.

[–] BerenstainsMonster@kbin.earth 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, and I live in LA. I'm a handful of blocks away from the evac warning perimeter. The message is not that budget cuts caused the fire. We who have lived here have seen the fires get worse every year because of climate change. The message is that our mayor's tough-on-crime politics are to the detriment of public safety and our actual, material needs as Angelenos.

She has been majorly unimpressive, and I can't say I'm surprised 😒

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

You make an excellent point that the SoCal fires will have high property value damage but low life loss because people were prioritized over property.

[–] Bieren@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don’t forget, cali has private firefighters brigades. Just saying.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 day ago

Made up of slaves!

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 57 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"Have we tried nuking the fire ?"

  • Donald Trump(probably)
[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

takes a Sharpie and crosses out the fire

[–] Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 day ago

Cunningly suggests simply injecting uv light into the fire to kill it.

[–] nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 day ago

they tried to deport it but all the I.C.E. agents kept melting

[–] Gutek8134@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago
  1. You can backslash the - and it won't become an unordered list element

\- like this

  1. Fun fact: nukes WERE actually used to extinguish fires! Gas well fire, oil well fire, both in Soviet Union.
[–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well they need the tank more than ever now, so that was absolutely necessary and well planned.

[–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because of all the newly homeless people or ..?

[–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

Well the additional homeless people were my first thought but I like the way you think

[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

well wouldn't need a tank with proper fire prevention in the first place

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

They've got houses made of wood and cardboard, they seem to be well prepared.

[–] Y5QcY2Cu9@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

They did not defund the fire department. They still shoukd defund the cops, but don't make shit up to argue for it.

[–] Femcowboy@lemm.ee 15 points 20 hours ago

They cut the fire departments budget, is that not defunding?

[–] freethemedia@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 20 hours ago

Increasing police funding consistently while not doing the same at the same rate for fire health and emergency services is in fact defunding the fire department.

When cop salaries and equipment are always priority #1, the police are in fact defunding US

[–] BerenstainsMonster@kbin.earth 4 points 19 hours ago

I believe you're mistaken. You have fallen for the pro-Karen Bass propaganda.