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And fuck. I really miss plex. I've had Netflix and Hulu forever as family won't let me cancel. Decided to sign up to Paramount + for some Trek. Twice in lower decks it didn't save my watched episodes. Doesn't mark episode as watched if you exit during the credits. And multiple playback issues.

Wanted to add no ad Disney to the Hulu for some Doctor Who. Only the add supported is available through Hulu. So I'd have to cancel, wait for the month to end and sign up via Disney. Deal with ads or pay almost double the duo plan costs, or include ESPN, and honestly fuck sports.

What is so difficult about just providing a decent service for a fair price? Why is plex like a decade ahead of the streaming UI's? I'm trying to give you fucks money and you're making it extremely difficult.

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[–] __init__@programming.dev 162 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Some more examples of why piracy is a service problem

[–] Pirate_lemmy_arrrrR@lemmy.dbzer0.com 70 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It really is. Everyone splintering off to their own app is what got me back to it. Had Netflix, Hulu, max, Disney, prime and I think Apple plus or peacock for a while and I could never remember what service the shows I was watching were on. Opening up 4 streaming apps to find what I was watching the other day got tiresome. When it was mainly Netflix and Hulu I only pirated the few shows that were on like HBO that I wanted to see. Arr apps with plex is so nice in comparison.

[–] jesuiscequejesuis@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I could never remember what service the shows I was watching were on. Opening up 4 streaming apps to find what I was watching the other day got tiresome.

I know what community this is, but using something like a Chromecast w/ Google TV lets you search across all your streaming services simultaneously.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And those searches fucking suck, they are wrong half the time

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[–] Kwakigra@beehaw.org 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There are steps to piracy which cost time and effort. For most of the media I consume that time and effort cost is significantly less than the time, effort, and capital I would need to invest in a paid service. However, the time, effort, and capital I spend to play videogames has been less than piracy would cost for me for decades. Being able to effortlessly get those games running on a mobile steamdeck is orders of magnitude cheaper than what it would have cost me to set everything up myself even if I'm not paying for software and my costly version wouldn't be nearly as smooth. This quote would be true enough even if a counter-example didn't exist, but Steam and GOG are pretty clear demonstrations of the kind of service the average person is satisfied with even if they still have some real issues.

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 83 points 10 months ago

It cannot get better and it will definitely get worse.

Paying for enshittified services is not really "doing the right thing". It only encourages further enshittification.

[–] darkmatterstyx@lemmy.world 58 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A new PC will cost you far less in the long term.

[–] Pirate_lemmy_arrrrR@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm working on it. Pretty sure it's down to CPU, GPU or motherboard. I have an old gtx 660 that I'm going to try. Then probably buy a new MB and see if that helps. Really hope it's not CPU or GPU as they're a 5900x and 2080Super. Not exactly cheap replacements.

[–] fartsparkles@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Have you got a buddy with a computer you can test components with? Might help you speed up the troubleshooting process?

[–] Pirate_lemmy_arrrrR@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If I have to, I can canabilize the kids pc for parts. It's my old ryzen 3600 and gtx 970. Trying to avoid doing that if I can.

[–] fartsparkles@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not to say cannibalize but perhaps one night just test their parts on your board or vice versa to figure out what component in yours has bitten the dust so you can understand what you need to replace and budget/save accordingly.

Hope you get it sorted soon, friend. I couldn’t live without my Plex server.

[–] Pirate_lemmy_arrrrR@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago (5 children)

If it's not the GPU I'm almost positive it's CPU or mobo. It's hard locking anywhere from 5 minutes to an hour. No heat issues.

I've fresh installed windows 10, 11 and tried pop os. Pop froze twice during install. Disconnected everything except the ssd, GPU and a single stick of ram. Update bios. Tried both sticks of ram individually in slot 2 where it's supposed to go and slot 3, which still freezes and tells me I'm a dumb ass for not reading the manual for ram location. Tried installing windows on a hdd. Ram memetest86, sfc, ssd check through the bios etc.

Wish my CPU had onboard graphics to narrow that out, but I'll try the old GPU I have. At that point I guess I could throw my CPU in the kids pc and see if there's issues, but will probably just buy a mobo and see.

[–] Unforeseen@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

Don't count out the power supply, it can cause that issue as well.

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[–] FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Family won't let you cancel? Cancel anyway. Let them pay for it.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 10 months ago

Ahoy, FlavoredButtHair truly embodies the pirate ethos

[–] 4lan@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (12 children)

Jellyfin + Sonarr/Radarr + Bittorrent = free personal netflix with infinite logins.

I gave logins to my whole family over the holidays and now they can watch anything they want. They just text me the name of the movie and it's up there in 2 minutes.

Streaming is becoming just as bad as cable was. I'm done playing their games.
Hulu literally has adds on their PAID subscription.... People are getting WAY too used to being butt fucked by these companies

edit: I used this guide to set it all up: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/5911487

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ombi or Overseerr (I prefer Overseerr) will let them do requests automatically. Overseerr uses Plex logins so you don't need to manage additional passwords for them.

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[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You can setup Overseer to manage requests and even sync Plex watchlists so that literally all they have to do is add something to their watchlist.

There is a Jellyseerr which might work the same way.

[–] FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (4 children)

People need to be more educated when it comes to VPN and piracy. Your setup is pretty awesome with that combo.

The Plex pass pays for itself.

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[–] Ashiette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

For ~100€, through a Raspberry Pi, you can stream 4K60p to your TV. From there, you are the sole master of the seas, Captain.

[–] Pirate_lemmy_arrrrR@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 10 months ago (7 children)

I'll get the pc fixed. Pi is being used for pihole currently. Do you need a Nas to connect the pi to the hdd that have the video files? Been a while since I messed with the pi, but I don't remember there being sata connections, or if there is, I have 3 hdd that would need to be connected.

[–] wccrawford@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think the newer ones have a single SATA. I'd probably go the NAS route even if it had 3 connectors, though. There's something about having my data storage separate from my computing that I like. I've been trying to figure out exactly what since I've been typing this, and I've failed, though. :D

[–] Pirate_lemmy_arrrrR@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I've thought about it. The NAS enclosures are pretty expensive though. And since I usually just run the server on my gaming pc I couldn't justify the cost for another box when they fit in the pc just fine.

[–] Thermal_shocked@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Don't need a nas enclosure. Get old PC, load with drives, install truenas on a bootable USB. Once in, install Plex plugin, setup shares, and boom, it's done. I've had the same setup for almost 15 years back when it was freenas, now running a 10 year old i7 with 4 8TB drives RAID 0 and mirrored. Performance is top, I share over 1500 movies and 50 series to friends and family, it has my photo backups, software storage, personal files. Can use other plugin, all web accessible (computer is in network closet, only has power and Ethernet connected).

I'd get a case with as many drive slots as possible in my next upgrade, but this is solid af and it's all mine.

For streaming only, Nvidia shield pro with VPN app and stremio with torrentio settings. Nothing I cant stream if it's a one off watch.

Don't have to spend a fortune for a nice Plex server, drives will be the most expensive, but can be expanded when needed, can start with a 1-4TB drive and grow as needed and add RAID 1 later for redundancy. Can use SSD too.

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[–] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

Enshittification getting stankier everywhere

[–] Imprint9816@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Bro just buy an optiplex off ebay and go back to plex.

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[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for a great motivational speech, I already was against all corpo streaming services, but now I'm going turbo-mode on building a new Jellyfin server with all my media to stream whenever I want :)

[–] kumatomic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I just made the switch last month. Even my partner doesn't touch his beloved Apple TV anymore. We'll never go back.

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[–] YaksDC@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I have been using this Mini PC as an always on running Kodi for over a year. Up to 4K resolution.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0B2C1GL48?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I've coincidentally bought this machine for similar purpose, arriving tomorrow.

I'm intending to install a Linux KDE environment on it and use it as a living room PC, steam Linux machine, stream from my PC for 4k gaming, and a Jellyfin /Kodi box. I could probably keep windows 11 on it but I prefer the privacy and control I get with Linux plus it'll be a fun little project.

Was on sale for £270 here, and looks overpowered for what OP'd need.

Raspberry Pi 5 is also available for like £80 and that's capable for 4k video (although frustratingly the web browsers aren't able to take advantage of hardware video accel from my tinkering; you have to use dedicated apps like Kodi, freetube etc). That could also be a viable route for Plex / Jellyfin / Kodi machine media server and player or even just server.

Edit: worth point out a raspberry Pi costs the same as 10 months of just Disney+ without ads. Once you throw in other streaming subscriptions... May pay for itself much sooner...

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[–] CurbsTickle@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I've got a slightly older (8th Gen Intel) off lease dell micro in my living room, mostly for early ed games for my kids. A quick user switch and it's steam time for me.

Cost me about $150, then I tossed about $75 in upgrades, roughly 2 years ago.

Ultra small form factor PCs like this and the beelink are fantastic options. I've got a stack of them running all of my home services.

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[–] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Everyone here who has used Plex has had fuck ups. Between finding corrupt movie files, Plex messing up meta data, or forgetting where I am in a movie (and between multiple devices this is especially bad); my list of Plex/xbmc fuck ups would far outpace any issues I have with the services.

In general most of the streaming services work just fine and have most features you need.

The biggest issue by far is the need for $140 in streaming services to get what you want. I'm probably just going back to cable IMO.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Sure there's occasionally issues with source media or how it was imported, but the big difference: I can fix problems with emby/plex. I can correct messed up metadata, or run a partially corrupted file through a converter to fix it, or just replace files entirely; all in a few minutes. (and none of these I have to do very often. Like one or two files a month, while constantly adding new content daily)

Most of the problems paid streaming services have, just have to be delt with until the provider gets around to fixing it, if they ever do at all. Then you add on content being scattered across 10 different services, artificial quality limitations, tracking, lack of or very poorly implemented offline playback, the inability to share with friends/family, advertising (now even being added to services built-on being 'ad-free'), the list goes on...

As a note: I use Emby and have never had an issue losing my watched position and have only had maybe 1 in 1000 items incorrectly identified (out of a library of 4k movies and 34k tv epps).

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Idk if I’m just lucky, but I’ve been running Plex on Linux for years without any major issue. Occasionally I had to hit things with a chmod, but that stopped being an issue after I changed a setting in qbittorrent, and that isn’t really Plex’s fault.

Rarely, if it is transcoding something and I pause for a long time, I may have to stop it and play it again to get the transcoder running again. It is a very minor issue that I barely ever think about unless I’m traveling.

Does it run differently on Windows or something?

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[–] brian@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago

I've also had none of these issues on jellyfin either

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Just find an old desktop PC and install Plex on it?

[–] pregnantwithrage@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Have you tried the library? It's definitely location dependent but I've found it's a good way watch obscure things and whenever I don't want to "find" this online I'll check there first. I also like that it gives the city a reason to keep the library open by having more people use it.

Try the library.

[–] kumatomic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago

My family still requires a couple of the services too, although they're decreasing their usage because they love Jellyfin so much. I just had to say that the Paramount+ app is utter garbage, especially in Apple TV. Most annoying was if you triggered the left hand menu by simply trying to navigate to the left then you weren't allowed to exit the menu without making a selection. They also deleted it ignored my watch history so the time too. Also fuck all their forced ads on ad free versions. Just because you call it a promo because it's an ad for your service doesn't make it less of an ad. That's what killed it for me. $173 12th gen i-3 mini pc off Amazon+Jellyfin and I haven't touched the Apple TV in six weeks. No problems encoding anything even 10bit outside my house. Love it.

[–] Amazed@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Check my profile for a media share option, if you would rather not dive into the technical aspects yourself. Ditch the enshittified media services and improve your life for the better.

[–] StephniBefni@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Isn't Dr. Who on Max? That's where I've been watching it.

[–] Pirate_lemmy_arrrrR@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The newest episodes with Tennant are on Disney, most of the 2005 series is on max from what I understand.

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[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

What is so difficult about just providing a decent service for a fair price?

Nothing. It's just not profitable.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Why not use Plex if you love it so much?

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 4 points 10 months ago

Bruh I've always been a goodie 2shoes and gone legit, but the current streaming wars have pushed me over the edge and I've been shocked at how easy it is to just do a quick search on qbittorrent and yoink down some content

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