Good and I did not consider a Tesla when purchasing our first EV. We will continue to shop from the Tesla's competition until "Leon" rockets off to Mars.
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the biggest player in the electric vehicle game is having a rough year.
You couldn't tell by looking at the stock price.
because tesla is basically just a pump and dump now considering the board are just musk stooges who greenlight anything he asks and investors are just musk cultists.
I would characterize Tesla stock not as a pump & dump scheme anymore, but as a bet on Musk's position to extract concessions from his political connections. He has got his way already with Trump planning to end EV subsidies that mostly benefited Tesla's competitors, although Trump intended to do so anyway, and he may yet push against regulation that would threaten Tesla's market position in the US, like federal charging standards. He may also get Trump to impose harsher tariffs on Chinese electrical vehicles than he otherwise would, although such tariffs enjoy bipartisan support.
Were stooges stooges before the Three Stooges? Or was it the Stooges that defined stooges as stooges?
As much as I'd like to, I don't try starlink for the exact same reason. (Although Starlink has other reasons why I'm not going to give them any money)
overall EV registrations in Europe have remained stable as competing automakers gain ground.
Which competing car manufacturers are they so I can invest?
🤷 for some reason hybrids did really well in Europe this year. Probably because some countries have really shit charging infrastructure but people still want to emit less carbon.
The hybrids are bad though unless you live in a house and charge them at home. They don't have the hundreds of kW charging potential and if you charge them at work you often have to go move them during the day because you aren't allowed to leave them in the spot with the charger all day. Contrast this with an all electric vehicle that you can charge 200 km in five minutes at a gas tank.
Reminder that the Tesla strike in Sweden is still ongoing.
No way I'm giving my money to that fascist, I don't care how good or bad his cars are
Damn shame too, cause the second gen Roadster is the car I've been dreaming of: hard top convertible, sporty, electric, faster than rabbits fucking. But I will never, ever own a Nazimobile.
I hope it at least inspires other automakers to bring back sporty convertibles. Until then I'll hang onto my 350Z Roadster forever. If that never happens, I guess I'll have to eventually convert the car to electric. I'm so sick and tired of every battery car being a god damn crossover. They're too big and corner like shit because of their size.
There's going to be an electric Boxster in 2025.
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"His" cars are dogshit for the price. The only thing they have going for them is they are fast. Which makes them dangerous since people drive em fast and then cannot stop, since huge battery equals weight. The build quality is dog, the rear door will happily close on your fingers, and sometimes it'll just brick itself because F you.
I don't like Teslas either due to Musk, the touchscreens, the build quality and their anti self repair antics.
But the model 3 is very reasonably priced for what it is.
And just because something weighs more doesn't mean that the stopping distance is longer, because more weight means the tires are pressed onto the road harder, which means more grip.
Nah, there's plenty of comparable cars for the same price. I'll take a Hyundai ioniq any day. Europe, at least. In the us..dunno.. but not tesla anyway
Yes, there are other EVs available that are also reasonably priced. I just wanted to say that the Model 3 doesn't have dogshit value like the commenter I responded to claimed.
When my car gets too old I will get an EV and it will certainly not be a Tesla, but that has more to do with the company behind the car than the car itself in my case.
Well, there's a huge list of issues that it has. Owners have made a list and some workarounds...dunno, At its price...yeah, that's kinda dog shit.
I know someone who has a model 3 and he likes it, and I haven't seen this list yet, so either these issues are minor to most people or my acquaintance just has luck with his car.
And it'll watch, listen, and report on you the entire time!
I don't see how people fall for these grocery-store smartphone appliances on wheels, but their predictable, dangerously entitled driving patterns tend to check out.
European view: I always thought I'd love a Tesla when I make the move to electric.
Would never, ever buy one now and it's purely because of mister half a trillion election purchasing oligarch.
100% agree. I used to dream of owning a Tesla, I used to love Elon Musk. But now that I found out who he really is... meh, I'll never ever buy a Tesla.
My parents got one somewhat recently (😒) and I have to say, features are also a negative point. Model Y door override is so inaccessible it might just as well not exist. No haptic control for most things except indicators as they are required by law.
Other than that it's a car like any other, so no reason to support Tesla specifically.
I got myself an i3 2017 a few months back and while you can tell it's a first gen EV and only basic non-BMW features (no Android Auto, only basic BT) I much prefer the i3. No random braking on the road, no crazy lane corrections. Not as powerful as the Tesla, but I drive in Eco, anyway.
I love Tesla for what they did for the EV market, but I'll happily attribute that to the original founders and engineers. M*sk was only PR; if the car was half as tech geeky they'd still be where they are today.
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RIP Tesla. I will never buy one ever again and now champion against them amongst friends & family. Good riddance.
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I have a Model 3 at the moment. I've had it for almost 5 years and it's generally been great - cheap to run, quiet and comfortable on longer trips but still fun to drive on back roads.
Recently it had its first major breakdown, and although Tesla service did manage to take care of it, it's got me browsing for new EVs - but now, buying a Tesla is not the foregone conclusion it once might have been.
First, they have been making some truly stupid design choices in their latest facelifts (deleting the indicator stalks and gear selector).
Second, their CEO has now gone completely mask-off fascist.
Third - after a few years for the competition to catch up, we now have genuine alternatives from other marques which are just as good if not better EVs than Tesla's offerings.
I think my next car will likely be a Polestar 2.
I used to be really keen on Teslas but a combination of Elon and stories of poor quality and after sales support have killed the brand for me.
Poor build quality was mostly ramping up to mass production. They mostly got that under control after the first couple years. At least for me, no longer an issue.
I don’t know about support - I no longer read complaints so that probably A good sign, they no longer have the excuse of rapidly growing sales taking all the parts, and they did put money into support starting a couple years ago.
The ceo on the other hand … you really can’t fix that
The new model 3s are improved upon also in quality I heard and soundproof
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