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[–] Robaque@feddit.it 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Unsurprisingly, it's likely that this "death threats" situation was made up by the ceo: https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/16j21jg/the_truth_behind_the_unity_death_threats/

It's a reddit link, ik... here's a copy of the post:

The truth behind the Unity "Death Threats"

Unity has temporarily closed its offices in San Francisco and Austin, Texas and canceled a town hall meeting after receiving death threats, according to Bloomberg.

Multiple news outlets are reporting on this story, yet Polygon seems to be the only one that actually bothered to investigate the claims.

Checking with both Police and FBI, they have only acknowledged 1 single threat, from a Unity employee, to their boss over social media. Despite this their CEO decided to use it as an excuse to close edit:~~all~~ 2 of their offices and cancel planned town hall meetings. Here is the article update from Polygon:

Update: San Francisco police told Polygon that officers responded to Unity's San Francisco office "regarding a threats incident." A "reporting party" told police that "an employee made a threat towards his employer using social media." The employee that made the threat works in an office outside of California, according to the police statement.

https://www.polygon.com/23873727/unity-credible-death-threat-offices-closed-pricing-change

Polygon also contacted Police in the other cities and also the FBI, this was the only reported death threat against Unity that anyone knew of.

This is increasingly looking like the CEO is throwing a pity party and he's trying to trick us all into coming.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Yep, a lot of companies will make shit up to make people feel bad for them, and to try to make themselves seem like the victims in all of this while hiding the real victims when they are the abusers.

It's honestly fucking disgusting behaviour, it makes me sick.

[–] Ozymati@lemmy.nz 13 points 1 year ago

One threat, from and employee. Sigh.

More realistic outcome - some game loving tweenage hacker does something fantastically destructive in whatever part of their infrastructure they can get into.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This shouldn't be a distraction from the core issue, but obviously people should cut this shit out.

You can't sneeze online without some sociopathic child threatening to slit your throat.

Edit: Annnd it was an employee of Unity that made the threats...

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

THAT IS NOT TRUE AT ALL!

I SHOULD SLIT YOUR THROAT FOR SAYING SUCH OBVIOUS WRONG STATEMENTS!

/s

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One day you're going to sneeze, and then you'll get yours.

[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was gonna point out, that they would have to sneeze online

I sometimes forget, we're not in 2000, where else would they sneeze? Irl?

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago

Ewww... what kind of luddite would ever sneeze analogue.

[–] StarServal@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shitty Executive: “Oh shit, our terrible idea turned out to be wildly unpopular and we’re getting massive negative feedback! Quick, play the death threats card to make us look like the victim!”

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Perhaps they could pay a small fee to not receive them.

Or purchase the Happy Customer Times Season Pass, where for 12 months they only receive feedback telling them how awesome they're doing. Only $39.99 per employee!

*fees are liable to change at any time without notice, new prices may be applied retroactively

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

No need for death threats. Unity already committed suicide.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I am usually against such and still am, you should never send anyone deaf that's, that is a felonious offense.

That said I don't feel sorry for the victim. You can't blackmail every game developer in the world simultaneously and expect nothing to happen.

[–] dannym@lemmy.escapebigtech.info 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate humanity sometimes, why would they send death threats? Just don't use their engine; this is the way you actually make a change -- switch to something else, threatening people does not help you prove your point. I hate their new pricing changes too, but death threats are never warranted

[–] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

What's more curious to me is what kind of people are those that resort to such lows?

I mean they might have mental issues,yes,but it's scary to see that people seemingly intelligent and able to create games (asset flipping not included) can have such low morals and problem solving capabilities.

Unity is the sort of company Steve Jobs called out in this 2 min video clip. https://youtu.be/tGKsbt5wii0?si=v8_A2jW5uLewhbVS

[–] mo_lave@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is partially what "eat the rich" rhetoric meant when acted on.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There is seriously a mental health pandemic going on and it's scary. Everyone here who has messages or upvotes messages about bringing out the guillotine or killing billionaires really needs to seek help.

And there is a fucking lot of you here on lemmy.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Well then, do what you tell people who condemn rapists and pedophiles to do: learn some empathy.

People who hold different opinions and worldviews than you aren't fucking mentally ill. You are by insinuating such. You are not the center of the universe and your opinions are not automatically facts just because you hold them.

Americans actually do still have a constitutional right to advocate overthrowing their government if they want; the whole fucking point of the first and second amendments is to enable the people to do just that.

I'm tired of people like you and your vile bullshit. Don't like it, get out of the thread. But don't come in here with your holier-than-thou act thinking you're going to bully or guilt trip or emotionally blackmail anybody into sitting down or submitting to your opinion like you've been doing to the American people for decades now.

[–] todayisthegreatest@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not everyone on the internet is American bozo

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago

Most of us in the thread are. Sideshow Bob.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry I don't condone the killing of people simply because they make more than I do.

Seriously grow the fuck up.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm sorry I don't condone the murder and enslavement of millions around the world by a small dominant group of people who have no one's best interests at heart but their own.

I'm sorry I don't condone the perpetuation of a broken system that purposefully subjugates billions of people.

I'm sorry you're butthurt I and a bunch of other people on the internet won't validate your massively unjustified sense of superiority and self-importance.

You grow the fuck up.

Grow. Up. And stop protecting and defending evil people. Stop hurting society and stop hurting us.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Seems to me like you're far more butthurt judging by this comment thread lol.

You've put a lot of words in my mouth that I've never said.

I almost guarantee you and I have more in common than you may realize unfortunately you're so blinded by hate you're unable to think clearly.

Mark my words we are working towards WW3 and it scares the living hell out of me because people like you are so built up in your echo chambers and you're frothing at the mouth. There's no difference between your attitude and those of an average Trump supporter. It's blind rage. Looking for simple solutions to a complex world.

I seriously worry for my children. The anger is so unfocused or focused on the wrong area.

We can change the system but we have to want to. The problem is people increasingly on the left and right just want to burn it down.

[–] mo_lave@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How equivalent is

"I don’t condone the killing of people simply because they make more than I do."

to

"[condoning] the murder and enslavement of millions around the world by a small dominant group of people who have no one’s best interests at heart but their own."?

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Go read actual history and find out.

[–] mo_lave@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I found out is the outcomes of events like the French Revolution and the rule of the Khmer Rouge i.e. vastly different dependent on the circumstances of the place and time.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago

Well, what the rest of us found out is the outcome of almost every other revolution in modern history including the American Revolution, which kickstarted modern democracy and led to the liberation of 60 other countries from enslavement, colonization and oppression.

In other words, you are just biased and here with an agenda just like you shitlords were when you inundated the Danny Masterson thread and the other news threads where you hounded on anybody who dared oppose your vile little sacred cow.

Take your political agenda out of our lives and respect our right to make up our own fucking minds. You are hurting us by acting this way: you enable and defend evil, you help the ruling class continue to subjugate the working class, and you do it all because you yourself benefit from the status quo and don't want to miss out on McDonald's and 7-11 because of the workers getting riled up.

[–] Ertebolle@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gamers: pointlessly sacrificing the moral high ground since 2014.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago

Fuck a moral high ground

[–] Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of the issue here, and I am in absolutely no way defending Unity, is that legally an executive team works for the shareholders. They must ensure shareholder return no matter what as they are in the hook for it.

Unity’s biggest issue is that they like many successful companies stopped innovating and have moved from a company run by technical people to one run by sales and marketing. Sales and marketing only know how to extract more out of the product they already have and not how to improve the product to make more in honest ways. I would (have) gladly given Unity more money if they offered tools that truly helped me get to market faster as then my win would be their win. Instead their product has become stagnant, slower not faster since 2019 and more expensive. I am getting less for more and it is unacceptable. Unity is a horrible business partner. But I can see why as they are a sales and marketing company now. Steve Jobs says it best in this 2 minute video. He got it. Why are so many other not getting this?

https://youtu.be/tGKsbt5wii0?si=km7LTxsY6gwD-mvo

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

You could swap unity with any company really and it would be the same. once a business goes for an IPO, whatever mission/vision it had turns into making shareholders happy and fast. Profits go directly to shareholders by stock buybacks instead of R&D/salaries, so they have to squeeze consumers more and more with the same products to keep it up. it's tragically comic that you mention Steve Jobs kinda talking about it when Apple turned into the GOAT of this stuff.

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Whatcha wanna bet there aren't any death threats? Seems to be a go to for "we're assholes, but look at these imaginary assholes instead!"

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was thinking this. A way to demonize the counter movement

So, the leadership of Unity is a complete piece of shit, but death threats (or really, any other threat of violence) are just straight up idiotic. It’s a game engine company. There are much more fun and interesting (and, you know, legal) ways to kill the company in a commercial sense.

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

Death threats? Really now...

This is pathetic. Why send death threats because a company made a change to their product. Why are these people so entitled? Or maybe they just know there are no consequences to their actions so they behave in a shitty manner. If you don't like the changes then use a different product.

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

Well looking on the bright side. If death threats are starting to become common for the decisions that companies make then maybe WFH should also be common to protect employees. Can't target employees at an empty office. The employees will have to be careful with social media however.

[–] blazera@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

Nice to see some repercussions for corporate greed