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[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 152 points 1 week ago

Not nearly enough.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 121 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

So let’s watch the denial rate at major insurance companies to see if it goes down.

Luigi’s trial will still be going on probably. I’m betting he’s going to drag it out as long as possible. His family is rich and influential so the trial is going to be a shit show, I hope.

And once we see a sudden (temporary) drop in denial rates, we can shit all over insurance executives again next quarter.

And the quarter after that when the denial rates sneak back up again.

Let’s just say I am really excited about shitting on that crew a lot.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 135 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago (3 children)

She should email back that Brian Thompson personally approved her mammogram and that they should check with him.

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[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

life expectancy and denial rates are now like KPI for me. these lines should be going up kinda like stock market, since this is all about "efficiency"

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yeah, it’s pure schadenfreude. But I am seriously coming around to the idea that shit-posting is a serious political tool. So I am planning my meme strategy around the release of these numbers.

This subject has the right emotional content to keep this issue in the public consciousness. Ever hear of ‘social peace’? Not for these shit heads.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 20 points 1 week ago

this is definitely a moment of unity. while issue is bigger than healthcare. healthcare can be the rallying topic and improving just health care would a big W.

social peace is elites' job to maintain but they are not interested in that.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

First I’ve read that his family has money. That’s really encouraging.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yeah apparently Baltimore country club types. People magazine has already done a thing on them.

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[–] Jamablaya@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hey look the Lemmy Ceo's are looking to ban users informing other users about jury nullification because apparently that's hate speech in Germany or some stupid bullshit.

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[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 75 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The fucking disgusting bit is that's less than 8%. So it's still only 3% lower than it was at the beginning of the year

How many people died for that line?

[–] ColonelPanic@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago

Yes but have you considered that line goes down? Line must never go down so further cuts must be made to ensure line goes up next quarter.

[–] 2pt_perversion@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It should be lower. This incident really put a spotlight on their claims denial rate being the highest in the industry, twice as high as industry average. A lot of customers will probably be leaving but that hit won't happen until later when the next billing cycle comes.

[–] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Or the idiotic "open enrollment" period. Can't believe they only let us change health insurance once a year.

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[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

their subscriber numbers will dwindle down to shit. they are as good as having no insurance at all

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[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 52 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Oh no, the imaginary number is going down. Whatever shall we do?

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (16 children)

And if Americans really did have the ability to shop around for the health insurance they wouldn't need in a sane country in this first place, this might be a good thing.

As it is, anyone with UHC (like my family) will end up paying a higher premium.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As it is, anyone with UHC (like my family) will end up paying a higher premium.

Rates for 2025 are set already.

You can't switch next cycle like the rest of people prolly gonna do?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which "rest of people" get a choice of insurance providers from their employer?

Or do you mean pay a hell of a lot more for a plan the employer isn't offering?

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

fair point, well tell your employer to switch, also tell your coworkers.

you are deff on point that they will extract to punish for this. but staying with them is a bad business decision unless your employer is getting kick backs.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 29 points 1 week ago

Big companies will switch if the rates justify it, it's a yearly bidding war, and quite annoying when you have to change insurance cards and even a different provider because of things beyond your control. Healthcare should be nationalized and not tied to employment for so many reasons.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

well tell your employer to switch, also tell your coworkers.

Has that ever worked for you? Have you only worked in small businesses or something?

If things were that simple, the CEO wouldn't have been assassinated in the first place.

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[–] rarbg@lemmy.zip 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why are healthcare denials sent to and shouldered by patients? If you go to an in network facility, that place is vetted by insurer. So why isn't a 'denial' a matter between the provider and the insurer and transparent to the patient?

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why are there networks, health insurance companies, co-payments, payment disputes/ negotiations of prices, and people suffering from not receiving medical care?

Oh yeah, because this way it costs us significantly more and we can think we are doing better than others in life by acquiring a job where we have linked medical coverage too.

The fact that there are "classes" of healthcare is just repulsive.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Luigi, I can forgive a lot, but shareholder value... How could you, man?

How am I supposed to tell my kids about his when they are back from the character building camp I sent them to where they were hunting lesser human beings for sport in an eastern European country I won't name? This is really going to crush their big, delicate hearts...

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Still worth 490 Billion.

That's 1,000$ for every American.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"value", it should be a service that is focused on servicing and have no value at all.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Boy the new and old media are having a thesaurus day with the word "killed".

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

How could Brian do this to the shareholders?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Health care insurance should be handled by governments, or alternatively by law by non profit foundations

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

Some would argue that should be the case for all companies.

Imagine how much better for profit companies would function if they didn't have investors skimming off their profits.

For profit companies should be illegal.

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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago

Too bad they will make damn sure this doesn't hurt the shareholders but the people themselves.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

If Luigi has shorted the company with some leverage, he might now be incredibly wealthy

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Pumping bullets into executives is my fav way to pump & dump.

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[–] foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev 31 points 1 week ago (6 children)

are you saying in the USA they organize their health care around the stock market?

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 29 points 1 week ago

It worked! This is a valid tactic.

[–] Jamablaya@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

fucking lol. someone get the new ceo.

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[–] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Is anyone else getting United Healthcare ads in their Gmail promotions tab? Seemed a little tone deaf.

Edit A word.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

I stepped away from that creepy shit when I noticed just how awful Google (search) and Gmail have become, a complete contrast to how it was originally. Now it's Fastmail and Duckduckgo, and everything is so much cleaner.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How do we get it even lower?

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago

checks fidelity

....naaaaaaah

lower

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Think of the shareholders you monsters! Only they matter! Not the patients. Duh; Businesses pay huge premiums to insure their employees, can’t have that money being used for the good of the people it’s meant to help.

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[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, this is only a temporary oscillation and they will soon recover and everyone will forget what happened. The damage must be done to the political structure that allows these companies to exist as they are

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

Fucking A for some fucking A, this will probably sting them more than the death of their last CEO.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm sure premiums won't go up drastically next year.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

Good, let it crash and burn and let it not be the only one

Free healthcare for all US citizens!

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