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They had no problems taking everyone’s money. Maybe companies should limit the number of sales when deploying a product tied to services they operate and need to scale.

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[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 7 points 6 days ago

Flight simulator is pretty. X-plane is good.

And with some addons X-plane is nearly as pretty. FS is all about VFR visuals. X-plane is about getting as close to real flying as possible in a home setting.

Almost every major release ever f’s up the server demand. Whether it be downloading the content or players looking to join games.

They know the bitching will happen, buy everyone’s already handed over the cash, so too bad. They budget enough servers to just keep the complaints from lasting too long. Then everyone forgets and finds some other facet of the game to call “unplayable”.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 123 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

The peak concurrent users for the game thus far has been less than 1/10th of that (EDIT: slightly more than 1/10th of that). They were well within the bounds of what they simulated. They just screwed up.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 61 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah from what I hear, they kept the shitty self-downloader of the first one that is obscenely slow and counts as "playtime" because the game is open while downloading.

This is on Microsoft, they can make as many excuses as they want, but they fucked it up.

[–] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's ok tho they're making server complexes out of wood now!

/s

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Where are you getting that number?

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[–] einlander@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Didn't account for the initial interest peak.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (10 children)

No, that's what I'm saying. That peak is well under what they claimed they simulated.

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[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 65 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bullshit, you own a cloud service and know how to scale a service to meet demand, you just fucked up.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You know Microsoft isn’t, like, one individual dude right?

[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 days ago

No, it's a multinational 3.1 trillion dollar company that has many in house resources it could pull on for a project like this. If they're gonna sell a product with this kind of server reliance built in, it's on them to actually hold up their end of the bargain instead of "oh oops looks like the game is just too much of a success guys".

[–] Homescool@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I think their point is that Microsoft literally had all the information they needed to prevent this from happening and they just didn't because they were incompetent or some other human reason that had nothing to do with server capacity or or a missing Ethernet cable. There was nothing "unknown" here.

Scaling to meet demand is literally their job. Supposedly best, which is why they have been awarded military contracts.

They lost situational awareness, or they never had it.

[–] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

It'd be hilarious if one of the people negotiating one of those military contracts went "well, apparently your company can't even handle scaling up a video game made by your own company, so we no longer have the confidence to rely on your product. We might offer a chance at the contract again in ten years, if no other incidents shake our confidence again."

[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

Yeah that was exactly my feelings, I'm actually impressed you got that from my low effort vitreol haha

[–] Heavybell@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

I have a friend who plays, and they suggested that maybe putting it right onto gamepass -- allowing Johnbro McFuck to download it, get lost in a cloud, crash into the ocean and never play again -- during the launch window might not have been a great idea.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why does a flight simulator of all things need to be a live service game?

[–] HappyTimeHarry@lemm.ee 62 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Because it uses an extremely detailed 3d map of literally the entire planet, which can't (yet) be stored on a modern gaming pc offline.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't see why it can't download each map individually. Like say you only fly in los angeles, it downloads only los angeles. Maybe it will still be a lot of data and you got a point.

[–] Heavybell@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I've been told it caches that data for areas you have been. But that doesn't make it offline friendly, obviously.

Also what you're suggesting is more dev work to make it not a live service with the associated benefits for the publisher, so they're not gonna do that. :(

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I just hate games that need constant internet connection to work

[–] Homescool@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

We need that connection to your brain in order to $urvive.

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[–] darthsid@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The devs of MS are fairly incompetent - look at all the first party games they’ve released, including ones from purchased studios.

[–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

The devs of MS are fairly incompetent

Or corporate executives push unrealistic expectations onto them

[–] SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

With Microsoft it can sometimes be really hard to tell if it was the devs, management, or both tbh.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 1 week ago

Al the Age of Empires games, apart from AoE1 DE, are excellent.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Sounds like a fake humblebrag.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 week ago

There’s no cloud, just someone else’s (underspecced) computer.

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Woah woah woah buddy did you even take a second to think about the profits? Selfish.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I thought about the profits and now I totally get it. Why are so many people trying to hurt the innocent money???

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

No play, only buy! dog frisbee meme

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

A new Flight Sim is out already? God dammit, I barely had time to play FS2020... Less than 10 hours.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Flight simulator needed a better people simulator.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I, for one, couldn't care less about people. It's a flight (That's why I use X-plane) simulator. Spend your resources on giving me a plane and environment that works as close as real life ones. This is not airport lounge simulator.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

My comment was a joke about their load tests being subpar.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Does it really add that much more than the terrain we had 20 years ago?

[–] caboose2006@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

With mods you can get FSX looking pretty good

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