This is the correct call! A majority of Palestinians and Israeli do not want war. It’s a few bad apples on both sides and they should all be jailed.
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The majority of Israelis do want war. They only want the hostages out more.
Israelis are terrorists who take part of the IDF to ensure the occupation of Palestine.
Of course, people like Haredi Jews and other minorities that don‘t take part of the IDF are innocent. But the rest are terrorists and should be treated as such. ✊
The Palestinian armed resistance is completely valid and it isn’t a „few bad apples“.
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Those warrants aren't worth the paper they're printed on, but it's still nice to see official bodies outside the US calling Netanyahu what he is.
Those warrants are worth a lot. Not enough to put them behind bars, but still a lot!
These warrants absolutely matter in terms of being a trumo card in several legal issues relating to EU-Israel relations.
It's a nice thought. I won't hold my breath expecting any real consequences for Israel, though.
The saddest thing is that if they do take action, it will be the lowest bar possible of accountability. They'll for example ban products from illegal settlements and then let Israel redurect them anyways.
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They’ve been preparing for this for a while. Months ago already I remember reading accusations of the ICC being antisemitic by Israelis and various sympathisers. The old fiddle that never stops playing.
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I doubt any country will have the stones to arrest him in the face of US pressure.
Pretty sure if he ever sets foot in South America he'll be arrested
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Finally! Now arrest the fuckers.
He first needs to come out of Israel to visit a country that recognizes the ICC...
And then the country still needs to actually arrest him. Am I right, Mongolia?
He is not Putler though. Israelis may be war criminals as much as Russians are but their strength to influence other states decision is somewhat limited. Apart from the USA of course which for some reason appears to be Israeli puppet.
Bingo
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Finally
Shove em all in the same cell, add one vaguely sharp rock, leave them there indefinitely
What do rank and file military realize they have to start refusing certain orders?
When do the Americans cut off the supply of certain weapons?
When does the Israeli populace see that a radically new direction is needed to secure peaceful relations "from the river to the sea"?
America will never cut off the supply of weapons to Israel, as they are not only our most important ally in the Middle East, but also a key symbolic homeland for millions of Jewish Americans that happens to be under constant threat of attack and annihilation from multiple regional neighbors, including Iran.
People won't like to hear this, but Bernie Sanders could have been president in 2023 and he still would have sold weapons to Israel in the wake of the October 7th massacre.
The best you can realistically hope for is weapons sent under preconditions.
Jewish Americans are at threat of anihilation by their regional neighbour Iran?
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Hey look! Performative European bureaucratic theater that will amount to nothing. I think this is what people call "virtue signalling", no?
More than a year into this shit show chapter of an 80 year conflict, war criminals, authoritarians and genocidal maniacs on both sides, no mechanism to compel arrest or enforce anything, and the Hamas officials that were named are potentially already dead. I can't believe that people don't know empty political gestures tossing red meat when they see it... 🙄
Netanyahu should be a man and go face the ICC himself in response to this warrant. After all, if the facts show that he has acted within the various laws and conventions of war, then he has nothing to fear. He obviously won't however, nor will anyone bother to arrest him in the US or EU.
Good news
Biden is lucky he didnt get included in the warrant.
Finally... it was about time!
Better late than never, for all the good it will do...
How's that working out?
I mean it's done quite a lot to diplomatically isolate them, right? Putin couldn't go to South Africa for BRICS, he couldn't attend the G20 summit this week, and presumably lots of other trips he hasn't done that he would have otherwise intended to
In Israel's case, I expect this will be a pain for Netanyahu more than it has been for Putin, since the set of countries that are neither ICC signatories nor actively hostile to Israel is a pretty short list
He'll still go back and forth to the US without issue I'd imagine.
Yes indeed, sadly the US is not a signatory
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He wasn't able to travel to Brazil for this reason. I'd say its working
The name of the game is sanctions. Russian can sustain itself under "nuclear" sanctions. Sanction Israel, and the comfortable lifestyle of illegal Lebensraum settlers will start to look rather unattractive.
ICC charges are directed at individuals, not entire countries. They wouldn't justify sanctions for the same reason governments don't sanction Saudi Arabia for being the home of bin Laden.
I couldn't think of a more absurd analogy. If Osama Bin Laden was Saudi Arabia's head of state, and 9/11 was carried out by the Saudi military, and Saudi was party to the Rome Statute, then maybe you make such an analogy. As it actually stands, Netanyahu's crimes were carried out by the state of Israel and that certainly has legal bearing inside the EU's courts, with very recent precedent - sanctions on Russia citing the ICC arrest warrant for Putin. And Russia is not even party to the Rome Statute - the state of Israel is, and would be violating by not giving Netanyahu up.
crimes were carried out by the state
The same is true of others facing ICC charges. For example, Hamas leaders face ICC charges, but that does not justify sanctions against Palestine.
sanctions on Russia citing the ICC arrest
Sanctions against Russia couldn't cite the ICC charges, because they began long before Putin was charged by the ICC.
the state of Israel is
Like the US and Russia, Israel is not a party to the Rome Statute.
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