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[–] PrivacyDingus@lemmy.world 93 points 5 days ago (4 children)

to me, shaving Android off their business (suggested next step if this fails) would be way more impactful

[–] xep@fedia.io 66 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] PrivacyDingus@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

good point, I guess one worry here is about the way in which this will affect Firefox (note Firefox here, not the Mozilla Fdn who have managed to Elon their own thing without help, seemingly)

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 5 days ago (12 children)

I'm worrying that whatever gets sold (Chrome or Android) might end up in the hands of someone even more scummy than Google.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 9 points 4 days ago

They would have to be more scummy and also at least similarly competent... Google can't innovate for crap, but they're pretty good at maintaining projects (when they don't randomly kill them off)

If they stop work on chromium, or belief in the stewardship of chromium wanes, it'll fragment the ecosystem again. Which is sorely needed at this point - we need to get back to standards and away from centralized control

Imagine Twitter/musk acquires them. Microsoft, Apple, and many other big companies directly or indirectly rely on a chain now controlled by a group known for mismanagement - are they going to wait and see, or are they going to diversify?

[–] PrivacyDingus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Chrome, brought to you by Palantir, heck, what if Musk bought it?

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[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think Google is putting their eggs in one basket (Android) in preparation for them selling off chrome. They are already killing ChromeOS.

https://www.androidauthority.com/chrome-os-becoming-android-3500661/

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Android also becoming chrome OS in light of recent news of developing Android desktop mode and native Android compatibility with Linux apps, looks like they make hybrid OS that could do it all

[–] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

if Google was to sell Android that would be like a nuclear bomb dropping. I mean aside from budget Android phones people are going more and more to apple devices just because of the stability.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 39 points 5 days ago

The next day, the Chrome division is sold off to a new company "Bloogle" and we're back to square dumb.

And before you think about applying for a job there, know that the new company is still demanding mandatory 5 days in the office

[–] coolmojo@lemmy.world 36 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If Google does not set the price for 200 trillion USD and it can be really bought, then it will be probably M$ and they will change the search engine to Bing and integrate Coplilot or whatever the fuck it is called now into it.

[–] Aedis@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Pretty sure that would count as monopoly as well and the sale wouldn't be approved.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

And I was pretty sure them aquiring Activision Blizzard would count as monopolizing but here we are.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Did you consider that Microsoft lawyers said prices wouldn't go up? Cause they did, they did say that, which is why the merger was approved. Do you think lawyers can just lie? Don't you think it's much more fair now that companies can make pinky promises that prices won't go up before they become more monopolistic. That's just good business for both customers and businesses /s

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You had me bad in the beginning there haha, thanks for the chuckle.

[–] serpineslair@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Well he is called chuckleslord for a reason.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 5 points 5 days ago

Imagine being a monopoly and still being 3rd place out of three in your field.

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Why does it need to be sold to another big company, why can't they just break Google up so chrome becomes its own business?

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Chrome by itself would likely cost 100 billion dollars to sell, and then more to maintain, without any clear revenue except selling user data. Chrome is not a profitable product on its own. Not many companies can afford that.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Well shucks, I guess it should just be made fully open source, the code distributed, and the business dissolved. Womp wooomp.

[–] CthuluVoIP@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

The overwhelming majority of development to Chromium is done by Google and not the open source contributors to the project. Maintaining a browser is not something that can be done for free as a hobby. It requires an army of full-time developers to sustain.

Given all of the major browsers except Firefox are using Chromium, the best case scenario for spinning off Chrome is that Microsoft would pick up the lion’s share of development to keep Edge up to date.

This is the same reason that all of the major Linux distributions have large foundations to support them.

The DoJ would do less harm to the internet if they just forced Google to sell off Search instead. Then they’d be an advertising and cloud services company that happens to maintain a major browser to serve their ads.

[–] aeharding@vger.social 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ehh, I wouldn’t consider Safari “using chromium” at this point. It has been hard forked for years. Chrome could disappear tomorrow and it wouldn’t affect Safari development.

[–] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Safari has roots in chromium? I thought it was WebKit or something else for it's engine.

[–] coolmojo@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Safari is using WebKit. WebKit started as a fork of the KHTML and KJS libraries from KDE and has since been further developed by  KDE contributors, Apple, Google, Nokia, Bitstream, BlackBerry, Sony, Igalia and others. On April 3, 2013, Google announced that it had forked WebCore, a component of WebKit, to be used in future versions of Google Chrome, under the name Blink. Source: Wikipedia

[–] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

so its been awhile since they have been together.

[–] pup_atlas@pawb.social 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There are multiple other browser startups in development that are not Chromium based. Like LadyBird (which is completely independant), and Zen browser (which started as a FF fork)

[–] CthuluVoIP@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

That’s fair - I should have said major browsers to be more clear. Edited above.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And what's to stop it from continuing to monopolize search engine usage just because it'll be owned by another company? Wouldn't whoever purchases it just continue operating it the same way, banking on the name recognition?

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

MS is both wet and salivating right now.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Is there any company with the funds to buy this that would not become also a monopoly?

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

I'll give them 5 bucks.

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

The buyer of chrome could make bing the default search engine and re-enable whatever broke Ublock origin (the ad blocker)

They could also cripple gapps and gmail a bit. It would also be harder for google to unilaterally develop new web standards.

That would no doubt consternate a few at Google and knee cap them forcing web shit down our throats that only improves their ad business.

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

It will be another tech giant probably amazon or something.

Enshittification intensifies

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

They should make it open source

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I wished I got a nickel every time someone argues Chrome should be open source, only to find out it always has been

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Per Wikipedia

Most of Chrome's source code comes from Google's free and open-source software project Chromium, but Chrome is licensed as proprietary freeware.[15] WebKit was the original rendering engine, but Google eventually forked it to create the Blink engine;[18] all Chrome variants except iOS used Blink as of 2017.[

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Open source =/= FOSS, yes it's licensed as proprietary, but you can compile Chromium from scratch and the only drawback is Google's backup server not letting you connect. Other than that, the browser is identical...

[–] KmlSlmk64@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Well, it mostly already is. The Chromium project is essentially everything Chrome already has, except Chrome contains a few proprietary components (IIRC the tracking is proprietary)

[–] j4p@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Good news, but does someone more knowleagable of these things know the likelihood of a Trump DOJ derailing this? I am hopefully as the original case was brought in 2017 under Trump, and his relationship with Big Tech is at best strained, but I truly don't know what to expect moving forward.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 days ago

according to Cory doctorow (pluralistic), trumps gouvernement will likely selectively enforce antitrust, so the Google case would go through, but cases against, say, tesla would be dropped.

[–] peppers_ghost@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

I wonder what would happen to the 800 gorbillion Chromebooks if this sale happens

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