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Summary

Elon Musk, having endorsed and campaigned for Donald Trump, is now acting as a “shadow president,” advising on policies and personnel, and joining Trump on calls with world leaders.

This unprecedented relationship between the world’s richest man and the leader of the free world raises concerns about the influence of wealth on government.

While both Trump and Musk have incentives to continue their partnership, their volatile personalities and differing expertise may lead to a breakup in the future.

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[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 139 points 6 days ago (2 children)

This is the most mask-off corporatist government we've ever seen, and they haven't even been sworn in yet.

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 60 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is what happens when you pussyfoot consequences.

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 days ago

Just wait on the Mueller report bro. Trust me bro the wheels of justice take time.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

Why hide what is clearly quite popular?

Corporate media has the public totally sold on oligopoly. Elon will run our country into the ground and the Talking Heads on his payroll will tell the whole country how hard they need to clap.

And if you won't, we all know the cops will.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 94 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

"leader of the free world"

Coming from someone outside the USA: lulz, you guys don't know shit about freedom

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago

Right? Leader of the prison capital of the world

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 5 days ago

The Land of the Free, that's why our slaves are so happy here! /s

[–] vala@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 93 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] lando55@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Oh he's gonna hate that. I'm in.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 days ago

Bonus: the acronym is pronounced 'phlem'.

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 64 points 6 days ago (2 children)

"Differing expertise?" They're both experts at destroying profitable businesses, and..? Narcissism? Hatred?

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 22 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Musk hasn’t made a reality show yet, and Trump hasn’t become rich, despite multiple attempts. Maybe that’s the expertise they’re talking about?

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago

I don't think there's a better case of "failing upwards" than Chump and Musky Husky

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 36 points 6 days ago (5 children)

An illegal immigrant in the White House? Consistency was never a strong point of the GOP.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 5 days ago

Every accusation, no matter how absurd is a confession. Now the White House is probably gonna smell like hummus, because that's something they said would happen under Kamela (no seriously)

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[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 37 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The US presidency is no longer considered the leader of the free world... Not since 2016

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 27 points 6 days ago (2 children)

2016?! My brother in christ, the corporate takeover of American government was finalized with Reagan back in the 80s.

We may be entering a new phase of Fucking Around with fascism, but most of these modern problems are just us Finding Out how a corporatocracy functions.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago

Remember when every state except for fucking Minnesota voted for him?

No really, that happened

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I have to age my self and say that I am a year younger than the end of the Regan precidency...

But I can distinctly remember people in the 90s gushing over wanting to have green cards, and getting hand made dolls and dresses from America.

And if I reflect on recent history, Nixon probably did more than Regan did to turn the helm of the ship strictly towards all the icebergs

I really like your comment, but I think Trump did what the other bafoons couldn't. Get normal people not interested in politics to understand this point. And thus both our comments have merit

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Reagen deregulation our public airwaves and got rid of the rules about how many tv snd radio stations that a single entity could own. This directly led to media corps like Sinclair buying up most stations in many markets and forcing their ness to carry their propaganda.

We need a new Fairness Doctrine for the digital age. That was specifically a guard abaoponst this shit, and Reagan did away with thst too. In fact, Reagan imple,ended 2/3 of the Heritage Foundation's policy recommendations in Project 1981.

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Thanks, I hadn't read up anything about Regan before, to me he was just the joke unbelievable actor turned president that made it harder for Doc Brown to believe Marth McFly had traveled back in time.

(Note: I'm not American)

Was project 81 similar to project 25? This heritage foundation sounds like a pedofile ring

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The Heratige Foundation outs out a Projext XXXX every 4 years with policy proposals. They've been ratfucking us for 50 years to get their loyalists in place. All 6 partisan Supreme Court justices are Federalist Society. But getting rid of the Fairness Doctrine and removing the restrictions on TV and radio ownership was their idea so they can spew non-stop propaganda thays hard to get away from. I honestly believe it was a huge factor in this election.

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

After having an eye on American news stations every election year since Obama...

Right wing media: the left side is insane.

Left wing media: both sides are equal

I didn't understand why, before I understood who earns money when you watch the news

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The problem is that there isn't really a left-wing ,ecia. There are centrists like MSNBC or CNN, right-Wing like Fox News, and hard right like OAN or Newsmax.

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I get what you are saying. Like when Bernie Sanders lead the polls by a huge margin, and MSNBC was like "he's not leading enough, he will fail"

Of course no one will vote for him if you tell them their vote won't matter....

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The constant talk of Musk's power in the new administration must irritate the fuck out of Trump. How terrible.

[–] gerbler@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Wait wait wait... You might be on to something.

If we can just get the media to jerk off Musk and make Trump feel small and inconsequential...

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[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 35 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Ya know itd be a real fucken shame if this Saxon African bastard came down with a case of the dead.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago

"No one’s even bothering to try to kill Elmo."

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

conservatives like this they consider it good

[–] Dry_Monk@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

This unprecedented relationship between the world’s richest man and the leader of the free world raises concerns about the influence of wealth on government.

Raises?! Where have y'all been?

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

This unprecedented relationship between the world’s richest man and the leader of the free world raises concerns about the influence of wealth on government.

The only change is that Liberals are apparently becoming aware of the power dynamic that has always existed — that democracy cannot exist with massive wealthy inequality and money equal to speech. I'm also positive that if Trump/MAGA fails to implement fascism (this time around), Liberals will believe the current system works, and completely ignore the reality that their system was almost destroyed by a small number of wealthy sociopaths.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yeah it's a bullshit take. There's always been a bunch of money up every presidents ass. It's just public. Very very public now.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

You'd think they'd get the memo after several decades of "corporations get most of what they want, without objection" while "the people can't even get basic healthcare or a minimum wage comparable to poorer countries", yet here we are... Fascism is knocking down the door, financed by the wealthiest capitalism can muster, and they still have their heads firmly planted in the dirt, blaming the left for not voting, without evidence ... when the millions of people who didn't vote may very well be just as oblivious as Trump voters, don't know how the government works, don't know the danger they're in, and don't pay enough attention to care 99% of the time.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago

Reminds me of when I was a kid, my mom always said she still supported Clinton because "All he did was what every other man in power did, he just got caught."

[–] GreatBlueHeron@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'd be curious to know what the people downvoting this don't agree with?

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

For one thing, the Netherlands has nearly the lowest wealth inequality in the world, yet it is a democracy.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

I think you misunderstood.

democracy cannot exist with massive wealthy inequality and money equal to speech

Is supposed to be the affirmative statement afaict.

The Netherlands having low wealth inequality and not equating money with speech (or giving corporations all the rights of people but none of the responsibilities and restrictions) makes it much MORE democratic than it would otherwise be.

[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 6 days ago

"Leader of the free world" 🤡

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Only until Trump throws him under the bus the first second it's convenient to do so.

[–] uebquauntbez@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Nay, when Apartheid ended he saw no ground for his business(es) in South Africa. So he moved to America. More people there to work for nothing but his wealth and their 'American Dream'!

[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

What? Musk moved to Canada in 1989 when he was 18 to avoid national service.

Apartheid didn't end until a couple of year after that.

He's a massive bellend, and a huge leech on society with all of his government subsidised businesses, but thats not the same as making up reasons for his move.

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